Insane executive in China wants 12 hours a day, 6 days a week work culture

a reply to: DBCowboy

No wonder!

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: DBCowboy

No wonder!

I know.

I'm actually a small Chinese woman and not a sock puppet for Augustus.

But don't tell him, it'd make him sad.

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: underwerks

But imagine working on an assembly line in China on a rough monotonous job and being forced to do it. Terrible idea.

Sounds like the robot replacements are just around the corner

originally posted by: NarcolepticBuddha

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: underwerks

But imagine working on an assembly line in China on a rough monotonous job and being forced to do it. Terrible idea.

Sounds like the robot replacements are just around the corner

Actually the Chinese have put a stop to it or they are curtailing it due to the mass unemployment it will cause in the industrial zones in China.
Not really going to happen anytime soon.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Thanks for making me laugh

originally posted by: musicismagic

Not really going to happen anytime soon.

No, not in China at least.

In USA I'm sure we'll have robots that can replace the worker, apply for their welfare, and register them to vote Dem all at the same time.

I'm actually working this schedule now for the past seven years.

I have a friend that works 6-6 6 days all winter till march. He makes a lot of money and his company sells extra vacation weeks so he gets 6 weeks off paid and uses them all. Turns a $60k job into a $100k.

i have to say, i'm actually surprised that they haven't been working 6 days a week, 12 hours a day, all along. i know this type of work schedule is actually quite normal for many people in countries like the Philippines.

Maybe for a young single worker and if the financial rewards are appropriate it would be bearable for a while. But not if the worker has a family because it amounts to 12 hours of the day at work and the remaining 12 hours to cover travel to and from work, meals, shower/bath, sleep etc so quality family time amounts to a virtual zero.

I did 12 hour shifts for a long time but only averaged around 40 hour weeks so I had more days off than 8 hour workers which was good compensation. I very much doubt there'll be any compensations offered for the Chinese proposed 72 hour week.

a reply to: Willtell

The us does this too in some industries, many bad companies will demand these types of hours from salaried employees. In China it’s know as 996 and surprisingly the government is even slightly against it.

In the US such a schedule is quite common if you’re poor and need to work 2 jobs.

a reply to: tinner07

Well, 1000 per week isn’t even a median income, so it’s not a ringing endorsement of skilled trades.

a reply to: mikell

No, it’s still a 60k job.

I worked those hours for 3 years in manufacturing at a tier one auto supplier. I was making $8 an hour and working close to 80 hours a week. I had to lift a 200 lb spot welding gun. They had stop watches and would time us on how many car doors we could do in a day. Oh yeah fun times. All those hours I was working and I was bringing home less then $450 a week. Getting fired was the best thing that ever happened to me.

This may go over well with some in today's dog eat dog materialistic world of greed.

What materialistic world of ''greed''? Do you think human beings are supposed to be happy with little to nothing? What's wrong with wanting a car, a high-end computer to play video games with, and a little extra money at the end of the month to visit Escorts(it's legal in several euro Countries)?

No problem if it's voluntary but to be forced to work like that can be described by one word: SLAVERY

Are you saying those workers are doing it against their will? The Gentleman in question said that the workers who work hard will reap the rewards of such dedication, and I'm sure they will. My father worked 45 years for the same company, working 10 hours shifts, sometimes 2 on the same day, working overtime every chance he got his hands on it, never filed a sick day even when he was very sick, never went on holidays and loved, loved hanging out with his bosses.

Dad has a fine brand new audi that is already paid off, a great 5 bedroom(huge rooms) + 2 bathrooms already paid off, money in the bank, and every month he gets enough money to live very well, and now that he moved to Brazil to enjoy his retirement he's living like a King with his much greater retirement monthly paycheck than even what the doctors make a whole year Lol.

Working hard pays off. Someone should teach the young men that. I see a bunch of dudes that don't have a job, and when they do they complain about the boss asking them to stay longer hours and whine about it. Bunch of losers

a reply to: mikell

FM and I thought only Satan worked they hours.

originally posted by: Ligyron
Are you saying those workers are doing it against their will? The Gentleman in question said that the workers who work hard will reap the rewards of such dedication, and I'm sure they will. My father worked 45 years for the same company, working 10 hours shifts, sometimes 2 on the same day, working overtime every chance he got his hands on it, never filed a sick day even when he was very sick, never went on holidays and loved, loved hanging out with his bosses.

Dad has a fine brand new audi that is already paid off, a great 5 bedroom(huge rooms) + 2 bathrooms already paid off, money in the bank, and every month he gets enough money to live very well, and now that he moved to Brazil to enjoy his retirement he's living like a King with his much greater retirement monthly paycheck than even what the doctors make a whole year Lol.

Working hard pays off. Someone should teach the young men that. I see a bunch of dudes that don't have a job, and when they do they complain about the boss asking them to stay longer hours and whine about it. Bunch of losers

So your dad worked well over what any nation considers one should work to get ahead in life, and makes a bit more than doctors, even though he was paid in USD and is taking advantage of currency conversions? So your dad makes about $110k in Brazilian dollars, in retirement which is approximately $27k in USD. And that's all his retirement savings can provide despite working for 45 years, and working well over 40 hours per week, every week? So despite all of that, he's still only making less than what many cities pay out as minimum wage?

Do you know why people say there's no reward from working? It's because wages aren't high enough to provide reasonable investment returns. If you start working right now, at $20k/year, get an annual raise of 6%, put 15% of income into retirement savings, work/save for 50 years, and use a 4% draw down (which is bad since you will reduce the principal each year) at the end of that you will only have about the same purchasing power as what $22k would get you today as sustainable income.

50 years of work only returns minimum wage income at retirement. And that's for people making double the median income, and putting 50% more into retirement savings than most retirement planners suggest people should aim for as the ideal.

The only way you will have any shot at retirement as a young person right now, is if you are making at least 100k/year by age 25 (and have a spouse doing the same... and that you can avoid an expensive divorce with), and you can keep that increasing at a level above inflation. Saving/investing your way to retirement is not realistic, unless you can not only max out your 401k every single year (plus a good employer match), but have a secondary retirement fund that is just as large you will not have the money to retire.

Also, there is nothing noble about long hours. Productivity drops with the more hours you put in. Hours 31 to 40 in a week make up 25% of your paycheck but only about 10% of your productivity. Hours 41 to 60, if you keep going are only about as effective as your first 5 hours of work in a week. Hours 61 to 80 are about as good as 2 hours in a week. Long hours should be banned, as they produce almost nothing for an employer, and either drastically reduce quality of life, or if you're hourly significantly increase costs to the company.

Also, even if you do still favor overtime, overtime no longer pays. Most large companies (and more are switching every year) no longer give overtime, but instead pay you in additional PTO. So if you work 20 hours extra one week, you simply get an additional 20 hours in time off later in the year.