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AG says Mueller report shows no crime of colluding with russia or obstruction from trumps team
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a reply to: Assassin82
1... What about Clinton and the fact that the government already investigated Uranium One, are you not taking government reports at their word only to take the Summery of government report at its word?
2... Wiggle room as in they met with people that were not considered Russian government agents but still tried to do something. Like I said not illegal but not 100% on the up and up.
3... So you do doubt some of the report? The summary says hacked by Russian government. How could they make that statement if they didnt have the server evidence?
4... I thought you were against hand picked people saying their own people are innocent, for example Obama and Lynch in the Clinton Case you have been crying about for ages?
5... William Barr being instrumental in making sure people got off for Iran-contra is a DEM talking point now?
6... So they should have stopped at Whitewater even though they found other things over the years?
1... What about Clinton and the fact that the government already investigated Uranium One, are you not taking government reports at their word only to take the Summery of government report at its word?
2... Wiggle room as in they met with people that were not considered Russian government agents but still tried to do something. Like I said not illegal but not 100% on the up and up.
3... So you do doubt some of the report? The summary says hacked by Russian government. How could they make that statement if they didnt have the server evidence?
4... I thought you were against hand picked people saying their own people are innocent, for example Obama and Lynch in the Clinton Case you have been crying about for ages?
5... William Barr being instrumental in making sure people got off for Iran-contra is a DEM talking point now?
6... So they should have stopped at Whitewater even though they found other things over the years?
a reply to: conspiracy nut
It's perfectly fine for you to have an opinion. But if your opinion is based on summarily debunked garbage then maybe it's time for you to reevaluate your position.
If you wanna hammer Trump because he's on track to add another few trillion in national debt, be my guest. If you want to hit him on his trade policies, have at it. Whatever it is. But have evidence to back up your positions. Your supposition and opinions based on other opinions based on demonstrable lies isn't a legitimate position. It's a delusional one.
At least I have the balls to express my opinion
It's perfectly fine for you to have an opinion. But if your opinion is based on summarily debunked garbage then maybe it's time for you to reevaluate your position.
If you wanna hammer Trump because he's on track to add another few trillion in national debt, be my guest. If you want to hit him on his trade policies, have at it. Whatever it is. But have evidence to back up your positions. Your supposition and opinions based on other opinions based on demonstrable lies isn't a legitimate position. It's a delusional one.
a reply to: Guyfriday
I can agree with this. It was in Putin and Russia's best interest for Trump to be elected and they did not hide that fact. Of course Russia would want to deal with someone they felt would play soft ball with them, they knew Hilary would have been a gigantic thorn in their side. I also always agreed that was not enough evidence for collusion. Like I mentioned before I would not have been shocked either way the investigation turned out.
I can agree with this. It was in Putin and Russia's best interest for Trump to be elected and they did not hide that fact. Of course Russia would want to deal with someone they felt would play soft ball with them, they knew Hilary would have been a gigantic thorn in their side. I also always agreed that was not enough evidence for collusion. Like I mentioned before I would not have been shocked either way the investigation turned out.
a reply to: projectvxn
I am always willing to reevaluate my position. I try to approach everything with an open mind. I am not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. I will continue to interact with people with different opinions than myself. That is part of the beauty of ats I just wish the sides were a little more even because as of now ats is heavily right leaning...
I am always willing to reevaluate my position. I try to approach everything with an open mind. I am not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. I will continue to interact with people with different opinions than myself. That is part of the beauty of ats I just wish the sides were a little more even because as of now ats is heavily right leaning...
The window is now open to fully investigate the obstrucion of justice
concerning Hillary Clinton, The Clinton Foundation, and the illegal attempted
coup against the President Donald Trump.
Loretta Lynch, Bill Clinton a former president for cryin out loud!
James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Sally Yates, President Obama all
need to be fully investigated for their role in the illegal FISA
warrant application.
Now or never, and The United States will never recover if this
is swept under the rug.
No mercy!
concerning Hillary Clinton, The Clinton Foundation, and the illegal attempted
coup against the President Donald Trump.
Loretta Lynch, Bill Clinton a former president for cryin out loud!
James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Sally Yates, President Obama all
need to be fully investigated for their role in the illegal FISA
warrant application.
Now or never, and The United States will never recover if this
is swept under the rug.
No mercy!
originally posted by: visitedbythem
a reply to: Grambler
Now is the time for President Trump to go after the people who started and perpetuated this costly lie.
Don't give them any slack, Mr President!
Yep
Declass
Now
a reply to: conspiracy nut
And yet you deride that exact same quality in others.
You're having a major hypocrisy problem today.
I keep hearing this, but this whole time my positions on things haven't really changed. What has changed is the lefts derangement with anything conservative or Republican. ATS isn't any more right-leaning because the facts didn't favor the left in this case.
I am always willing to reevaluate my position. I try to approach everything with an open mind.
And yet you deride that exact same quality in others.
You're having a major hypocrisy problem today.
That is part of the beauty of ats I just wish the sides were a little more even because as of now ats is heavily right leaning...
I keep hearing this, but this whole time my positions on things haven't really changed. What has changed is the lefts derangement with anything conservative or Republican. ATS isn't any more right-leaning because the facts didn't favor the left in this case.
edit on 24 3 19 by projectvxn because: (no reason given)
a reply to: projectvxn
Putin and Russia wanted trump to win and made no effort to hide that. My opinions were based off of that fact. Whether or not that helped sway or reinforced members of ats and personal friends of mines opinions could be up for debate.
Washington compost please don't shoot the messenger www.washingtonpost.com...[editb y]edit on 24-3-2019 by conspiracy nut because: (no reason given)
Putin and Russia wanted trump to win and made no effort to hide that. My opinions were based off of that fact. Whether or not that helped sway or reinforced members of ats and personal friends of mines opinions could be up for debate.
Washington compost please don't shoot the messenger www.washingtonpost.com...[editb y]edit on 24-3-2019 by conspiracy nut because: (no reason given)
originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: projectvxn
Putin and Russia wanted trump to win and made no effort to hide that. My opinions were based off of that fact. Whether or not that helped sway or reinforced members of ats and personal friends of mines opinions could be up for debate.
Washington compost please don't shoot the messenger www.washingtonpost.com...
So your problem is that Trump rebuked the idea that Putin wanted him to win?
I wonder why?
edit on 24 3 19 by projectvxn because: (no reason given)
a reply to: projectvxn
Stop twisting my words, I deride you because of your gung-ho I can't be wrong attitude no matter who your flavor of the month hero is.
How can you be so gung-ho ho about Trump knowing you were the same way about Obama? That's why I called you out and you still don't get it.
George Bush once said something along the lines of... fool me once shame on you fool me twice you're not gonna fool me again... I hope trump is not "fooling you again"
Stop twisting my words, I deride you because of your gung-ho I can't be wrong attitude no matter who your flavor of the month hero is.
How can you be so gung-ho ho about Trump knowing you were the same way about Obama? That's why I called you out and you still don't get it.
George Bush once said something along the lines of... fool me once shame on you fool me twice you're not gonna fool me again... I hope trump is not "fooling you again"
originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: smurfy
Hilarious
So the takeaway from mueller saying no trump people conspired with the Russian government is to say
“A ha! This means maybe they conspired with Russians not in the government!”
As to your statement most right minded people thought trump was guilty
Geez, maybe they weren’t so right minded after all seeing as how trump wasn’t guilty
.One sided once again, yet since you've been here you always talked about being fair and objective, To re-iterate, there's no doubt Trump was guilty of obstruction, however I note you once again omit in reply what I was referencing in particular...obstruction, the innocence of Trump something that is not clarified by Barr any more that it is clarified by Mueller.
As for the matter of collusion Mueller knew full well the difficulty of tying Russian actors to the 'Official' Russian government, probably something that all governments are cute at.
But there you go, you just talk the shiite, and make the Martyrs in what suits you....Pfff!
originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: projectvxn
It's not a conspiracy theory. Russia pushed for Trump (for their own personal reasons) in their propaganda I don't think there was ever any denying that. I don't remember the Russians pushing for Obama or Hillary.
If you are referring to the Facebook ads you are wrong - they also pushed for Hillary.
The Russians involvement - the extremely limited involvement that has actually been shown -was designed to pit Americans against each other - not to get trump elected.
The reason you have not heard that is because the media intentionally only told one side of the story.
All right, since Trump didn't collude with Russia or obstruct justice, let's release the whole report and get it over with.
a reply to: conspiracy nut
I've done no such thing.
If you have an issue with my arguments then make your case.
I supported Obama before I was even eligible to vote. I stopped supporting Obama before his first election. I CHANGED MY MIND because the evidence suggested he could not be trusted.
You're calling me out for changing my mind with evidence? What evidence is there that Trump did anything wrong? Is that the parallel you're trying to draw? That there is truth to the leftist attacks on Trump?
Prove it.
Unquestionably Trump is NOTHING like Obama or Bush.
Stop twisting my words, I deride you because of your gung-ho I can't be wrong attitude no matter who your flavor of the month hero is.
I've done no such thing.
If you have an issue with my arguments then make your case.
How can you be so gung-ho ho about Trump knowing you were the same way about Obama?
I supported Obama before I was even eligible to vote. I stopped supporting Obama before his first election. I CHANGED MY MIND because the evidence suggested he could not be trusted.
That's why I called you out and you still don't get it.
You're calling me out for changing my mind with evidence? What evidence is there that Trump did anything wrong? Is that the parallel you're trying to draw? That there is truth to the leftist attacks on Trump?
Prove it.
George Bush once said something along the lines of... fool me once shame on you fool me twice you're not gonna fool me again... I hope trump is not "fooling you again"
Unquestionably Trump is NOTHING like Obama or Bush.
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Grambler
Its a win for our nation.
Its finally over.
HUZZAH
It is a win, but I think its just begun.
Declassification and investigations must happen now, or we will see every underhanded trick from the far-left/deep state in the 2020 election.
originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: Grambler
Lock em all up, if they're guilty, they're guilty! if they all get off scot-free though now that would raise my suspicions yet again. There is no way all these politicians are innocent!
I agree that’s been my stance all along
Which is why the double standards of allowing Hillary connected people to not register as foreign lobbyists, lie to the fbi and congress, destroy subpoenaed evidence etc, while charging trump people for those same crimes shows the corruption of the investigators
Which is why we need an investigation into them and the Obama administration