Men are attracted to more masculine women now

Get to know people, stop just wanting something... no one stops to know anyone any more, and instead we're all just parading around in skimpy outfits or muscle shirts, saying I'm the prettiest peacock..

That might be both the blessing and the curse with the internet/social media.

Most people see each other first, and a lot of online profiles are so dolled up the person really doesn't resemble what is in the photo.

On the other hand, some people get to peek into the true personality of people online in a way they would not in person.

originally posted by: JAGStorm

Get to know people, stop just wanting something... no one stops to know anyone any more, and instead we're all just parading around in skimpy outfits or muscle shirts, saying I'm the prettiest peacock..

That might be both the blessing and the curse with the internet/social media.

Most people see each other first, and a lot of online profiles are so dolled up the person really doesn't resemble what is in the photo.

On the other hand, some people get to peek into the true personality of people online in a way they would not in person.

I don't think anyone gets to know anything about the real someone from social media. We see a persona, an act. We still don't know a person when we're alone, in our thoughts.. just what we want people to think.

For every social media account we see, there are a dozen other people within that person that remains is hidden. Being salacious, rotten.. at least in my experience, anyway.

I'd rather meet someone casually, in real life.. get to know them that way. than base my opinions on how many kitten pics they can share in a group, and how they appear to be cute and good hearted, just to sway their viewers. Get to know them, and cut away the trash.. rather than find out later, that they are a narcissist hiding behind a fake mirror.

Nothing worse than discovering what you thought was a good person, than finding out they are a twisted, vain and horrid individual.. that's all people know these days. and they forgive the other, and try to make the best, when it is a forced, hollow thing that they'd never had entertained had they met them at a cafe, or at work, or in passing.

Again, just my experienced opinion..

I'm a man, I have a beard and all kinds of hair everywhere (less and less on the top of my head though). I rip out parts of peoples houses with tools as old as I am, and then rebuild them, but better. I am also incredibly sensitive, I couldn't even bring myself to eat meat for most of my life because it made me too sad. I took karate as a child but didn't like sparring, so they would put me up against the girls. We had a rat in our house last year, I caught it in a humane trap, but something went wrong and he died. The next day was my 35th birthday, I spent the day crying about the rat.

My point is that my whole life I had people telling me I was a "pussy" or a "fag" because I'm sensitive and don't like to do things I consider to be mean or inhumane, choices that made me "effeminate" in the eyes of my peers. It made things difficult, I hated school and couldn't trust most people my own age, it took me years to reclaim my own masculinity and realize that a desire to protect and preserve life and love are not feminine or masculine traits, but simply human traits. Maybe it's these traits that are becoming more attractive across the board.

a reply to: wheresthebody

I loved everything about your post, but especially this..........beautiful!

but simply human traits. Maybe it's these traits that are becoming more attractive across the board.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Thank you, it felt wonderful to get it off of my hairy man chest

originally posted by: gallop

originally posted by: JAGStorm

Get to know people, stop just wanting something... no one stops to know anyone any more, and instead we're all just parading around in skimpy outfits or muscle shirts, saying I'm the prettiest peacock..

That might be both the blessing and the curse with the internet/social media.

Most people see each other first, and a lot of online profiles are so dolled up the person really doesn't resemble what is in the photo.

On the other hand, some people get to peek into the true personality of people online in a way they would not in person.

I don't think anyone gets to know anything about the real someone from social media. We see a persona, an act. We still don't know a person when we're alone, in our thoughts.. just what we want people to think.

For every social media account we see, there are a dozen other people within that person that remains is hidden. Being salacious, rotten.. at least in my experience, anyway.

I'd rather meet someone casually, in real life.. get to know them that way. than base my opinions on how many kitten pics they can share in a group, and how they appear to be cute and good hearted, just to sway their viewers. Get to know them, and cut away the trash.. rather than find out later, that they are a narcissist hiding behind a fake mirror.

Nothing worse than discovering what you thought was a good person, than finding out they are a twisted, vain and horrid individual.. that's all people know these days. and they forgive the other, and try to make the best, when it is a forced, hollow thing that they'd never had entertained had they met them at a cafe, or at work, or in passing.

Again, just my experienced opinion..

Have no doubt you are right, my online foot print barely covers everything I like much less who I am as a person. Still its a snap shot definitely use it when looking for interns for our business. Not to choose anybody but help gauge who follow up with first. Which ones might have skills we can use.

In personal relationships, though I prefer talking a little bit getting to know each other before dating perse, just have had better and longer lasting relationships that way. LOL even back in high school got to writing to a girl who sat in the seat I did in latin class just a later period.we would hide notes on the desk or in the class, didn't tell each other who we were till a couple of weeks later. But finally dated and she was definitely one that got away. Funny as hell, pretty and intelligent enjoyed doing different things.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: narrator

Let people like whomever they want, it doesn't affect anyone outside of the two people in question.

I totally believe this, but at the same time I find it interesting.
Just like I find it interesting that both men and women in egypt wore makeup.

Am I not allowed to wonder with people of ATS if eventually we will all dress like people on Star Trek?
Or that maybe aliens are really super advanced humans that no longer needed gender identification, and maybe
that is where we are headed in the future?

Maybe, I just have more of an imagination than most. If you don't wonder, or care why do you comment?

You 100% are allowed to wonder, I wasn't meaning what I said in a negative way towards you or the OP at all, I'm sorry if it came off that way. I was mostly commenting on the first 3-4 posts after your OP, not commenting about what you wrote. It is an interesting look into different time periods, for sure.

I think it's mostly due to the surge in equality and empowerment that we've experienced of late. Women, you do you/look however you want to look/all that good stuff is now the norm, and that's a good thing. If you want to join a crossfit gym and get ripped, more power to you. If you want to get covered in tattoos and use your skin to display incredible art, awesome. If you don't want to shave your legs or pits, fantastic. Want to shave your head? Go for it. Do whatever floats your boat ladies.
There is no longer a stigma in America in terms of women "submitting" to their husbands, being "required" to look a certain way. Women are empowered now, and it's allowing them to do whatever they want with themselves. I view that as a positive.

Maybe my opinion is skewed though, because the "unconventional" look is what's most attractive to me. Tattoos, etc.

I say to each their own. I might think most folks are fools for what they do, but hey go ahead.

A funny thing I've noticed, girls I've dated who drink the feminist kool aid, all tended to prefer STRONG ALPHA male characteristics, and would become critical, bossy and b$tch about more beta male behavior. It's funny how they really don't know who they are or what they want.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Not this man.
One of the biggest things I value in my significant other is her feminine side. An old school feminist she's an egalitarian and believes in meritocracy. Understands the benefits of both masculinity and femininity.

Why anyone would take life advice from a miserable, single, childless, gender studies teacher with a mustache is beyond me.