Are The E.U. Panicking Or Just Getting Nasty ?

a reply to: alldaylong

Ok, thanks for clarifying but i still agree with him.

And i definitely disagree with saying he is interfering. Interfering by it's very nature means trying to influence the outcome and he isn't doing that. Instead, he is simply making a (agreed pointless) statement.

Do you not agree that there should have been plans in place by those leading the campaign? Not only is it now apparent (and documented) that there were no plans, you have had many leading Brexiteers admitting they didn't even realise the complexities involved.

Brexit is happening. Although i voted against, i have no issue with it happening - that side won the vote. But i have a major issue with a political elite that has shown how truly incompetent and clueless they are.

Remain side don't escape that either - equally incompetent.

a reply to: Flavian

And i definitely disagree with saying he is interfering

His place in hell jibe i can live with.

It is this quote of his i find dangerous.

"Today, there is no political force and no effective leadership for Remain. I say this without satisfaction, but you can't argue with the facts.

In my mind that is a direct interference in British politics.

Both! They know that if we LEAVE with a No Deal it could be the beginning of the end of the failed EU Mafia project!

originally posted by: CharlesT
a reply to: smurfy

Laugh all you want but globalism will take your liberty and enslave you.

Boris Johnson isn't a globalist...but he will take your money.....and more.

bit of panic I think, IF Britain goes through with it and survives a pretty significant segment of the EU will try to follow I think that is part of the reason for a push to get an EU military force.

If you want the EU to succeed and eventually become the all-powerful superpower, as do people like Tusk, then Brexit is a disaster.

Before Brexit the EU had the largest GDP. Two members in the UN Security Council. Deepening soft power and influence. Outward looking and expansive.

After Brexit the EU it is relegated to the third largest economic bloc, one member in the UN's Security Council and greatly reduced world influence. Inward looking and insular.

Without the UK the EU is diminished and weakened.

That's why the EU are worried. To Tusk Brexit was not just a slap in the face, it was a kick in the nuts of the EU project.

a reply to: SerenTheUniverse

Sure we must expect to leave as that is the will of the people, but it is a shame really. Having grown up in the EU and seen its benefits and having watched our people become much better for it we really do need to be totally concerned for what unknown is over the hill.

a reply to: alldaylong

Tusk for sure knows what that special place in Hell, looks like.

He is a horrible spokesperson for the EU. He comes across so haughty and condescending.

How's that self determination of Catalonia going, Mr. Tusk?

originally posted by: smurfy

originally posted by: CharlesT
a reply to: smurfy

Laugh all you want but globalism will take your liberty and enslave you.

Boris Johnson isn't a globalist...but he will take your money.....and more.

At least, him you could vote out of office.

Why would EU be panicking ?
We are witnessing downfall of a former member state that chose to leave the union.
England and Wales will serve as an example of what not to do in many years to come if they leave without a deal.
Its a win win for EU no matter how you look at it

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

originally posted by: DanDanDat
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

To Europe the UK is NOT like the Chinese; to pretend that the EU should treat them as such, even if the UK is making a big mistake by leaving, only proves the UK is right to have decided to leave.

We are going to open ourselves up to the wolves from abroad through all this jingoistic free trade nonsense. Better in the single market where the constituent nations are somewhat equal, the proof being how good life is here right now within the EU compared to how it was pre EU 1974. Quite simply people have a much better standard of living today than back pre EU days gone by.

That fact and/or opinion is irrelevant to the question of how the EU should be dealing with this situation and treating the UK.

a reply to: alldaylong

But your Nigel F. didn't address the accusation (for all intents and purposes true) that the 'promoters' of Brexit had no (and have not, since the vote) viable plan for leaving the union.

a reply to: ManFromEurope

the plan is to get theire arses out of there as quick as they can if not sooner

a reply to: alldaylong

If anyone is still daft enough to say we should remain as part of The E.U. then i suggest you need mental heath treatment.

Thanks for the qualified diagnose, I guess? Blame the European crooks all day long if you want to, he still made a good point there.
And then there's things like this:

Brexit risks increasing food prices, lowering safety and welfare standards, causing food shortages and worsening a public health crisis in the UK, members of a House of Lords committee heard on Wednesday.

The country already has a “catastrophic” £22.5bn trade deficit in food, Professor Tim Lang of the Centre for Food Policy at City University said.

Brexit Britain at risk from food shortages, rising prices and lower animal welfare standards, hears Lords committee

Maybe it's time you consider a treatment yourself?



10mins for The Pie and medical hemp for everyone might be the last option at this point. We're all fcked one way or another, look at the bright side here; once the arctic is free of ice there wont be much of Europe left to play with.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

originally posted by: ManFromEurope

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
The *UK* is acting like the problem will go away if they refuse to *start planning anything*. Of course it won't.

I corrected your sentence. My pleasure.

Lmao nice attempt at sounding witty, did you get that idea from Reddit?

Donald Tusk commits a major diplomatic error.

The con men pushing hardest for a no deal Brexit use it as another distraction.

People lap it up, preferring to be angry instead of questioning.

originally posted by: FyreByrd
a reply to: alldaylong

But your Nigel F. didn't address the accusation (for all intents and purposes true) that the 'promoters' of Brexit had no (and have not, since the vote) viable plan for leaving the union.

Farage doesn't have a plan. He ran away soon after the result was announced, leaving the hard work to others.

Last night, he was asked on his radio show what his plan was. He said the same old same old about taking back control, which is not a plan.

Farage's children have German nationality and the man himself made a small fortune betting against the pound after the referendum.

Just another pirate pushing for no deal.

I've been wondering what that special place in hell looks like, for those who promoted Brexit, without even a sketch of a plan how to carry it out safely.

Firstly, it's not the kind of language we should expect to hear from any of our politicians, he needs to learn some manners, diplomacy and accept that the UK voted leave.
Secondly, some Brexiteers did have a plan but that doesn't matter anyway as it's a bunch of Remainers who are making the decisions and negotiating the withdrawal agreement with the EU. Do you really think they would let Nigel Farage, for example, have some say in the negotiations? LOL

So in summary, his comments were completely pointless. All he has done is make himself look unsuitable to the position he holds, and maybe made some Remainers laugh and get hysterical over it.

a reply to: Steveogold

Thats still a crappy no-plan.