Texas officials discover 98K illegal voters registered in state

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Guess you missed all those THERE ARE NO illegal immigrants that vote discussions.
58000 > NONE
Are you posting that you are ok with non Australians voting in your elections?

I guess you might be missing the point that they have only established that these 58,000 individuals were non-citizens at the time they obtained a drivers license... They haven't established how many were non-citizens at the time they registered & cast a vote.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

So it is ok if illegals are registered to vote?
So you are ok with non Australians voting in your elections?

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

So it is ok if illegals are registered to vote?
So you are ok with non Australians voting in your elections?

of course they are not ok with that. But they are more than ok with them voting in America.

Hypocrisy.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

So it is ok if illegals are registered to vote?

No, of course it's not ok.

But at least wait till their able to actually establish a legitimate number, before crying wolf... That's all I'm sayin.

Until then, it's just pure propaganda nonsense.... Or FAKE NEWS! As Donald likes to say.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

So it is not fake that 58000 illegals were registered to vote?

Funny I must have missed your answer to allowing non Australians to vote in Australian elections? Then again perhaps I did not.

originally posted by: neversleep

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

So it is ok if illegals are registered to vote?
So you are ok with non Australians voting in your elections?

of course they are not ok with that. But they are more than ok with them voting in America.

Hypocrisy.

Funny how that seems to come from those outside the usa in abundance here.
Allies sometimes even.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Well...firstly, this is not an acceptable number no matter the size in proportion to blow it off as "miniscule" is ridiculous.

My vote can be considered much more miniscule by your example, but can be cancelled out by an illegal? I want my miniscule vote to count period.

Local elections are often won just by 100's of votes, even in major metropolitain areas...judges, propositions, local bonds especially.

If concentrated as residets in the right areas smaller municipality elections can be really swayed. E.g.. Missouri City mayor won by 157 votes. Population of 67k. Suburb of Houston.

Texas has fought against voter fraud for years and just won the federal appeal last year requiring current valid i.d. to cast a vote...the State legislature, under pressure from citizens, pursued the i.d. law because we all know it is a problem. I am more than sure, as a voter in Texas, this is tip of the berg.

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My vote can be considered much more miniscule by your example, but can be cancelled out by an illegal? I want my miniscule vote to count period.

I see it in the same way. I don't go vote in other states and countries.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

So it is not fake that 58000 illegals were registered to vote?

58,000 people obtained a driver's licence well non-citizens, then at some point cast a vote... There's no evidence to prove they were still non-citizens when they registered and cast their vote.

Funny I must have missed your answer to allowing non Australians to vote in Australian elections? Then again perhaps I did not.

Well, if you can provide some kind of evidence of that actually occurring, then I might have an opinion.

Until then though, it's just whataboutism... Just like this particular claim.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

The fact that you refuse to answer a similar question about the nation you reside in says it all.
And all this time I thought we were friends.......
Good day!

originally posted by: roadgravel

My vote can be considered much more miniscule by your example, but can be cancelled out by an illegal? I want my miniscule vote to count period.

I see it in the same way. I don't go vote in other states and countries.

They would not allow it either.
But things are smaller down there so what do you expect, texas does have more people than that entire island and a higher gdp.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Subaeruginosa
And all this time I thought we were friends.......

lol...

Seriously though... I don't know how it works in Texas, but I highly doubt it would be even possible for a non-citizen to obtain a Victorian drivers license (where I live), let alone be able to use it on its own to register to vote.

Where I live, you need to thoroughly prove your citizenship status to register to vote.

If it's even possible to obtain a Texas driver's licence well being a non-citizen, let alone be able to use it on its own to register to vote... Then that says more about the incompetence of the system... than it does about a problem of non-citizens voting.

Just my honest opinion...

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Subaeruginosa
And all this time I thought we were friends.......

lol...

Seriously though... I don't know how it works in Texas, but I highly doubt it would be even possible for a non-citizen to obtain a Victorian drivers license (where I live), let alone be able to use it on its own to register to vote.

Where I live, you need to thoroughly prove your citizenship status to register to vote.

If it's even possible to obtain a Texas driver's licence well being a non-citizen, let alone be able to use it on its own to register to vote... Then that says more about the incompetence of the system... than it does about a problem of non-citizens voting.

Just my honest opinion...

And that's crux of it right there. The vast majority of our political system is incompetent.
Furthermore, Texas, the paragon of Republican politics, only "requests" an ID to vote, they don't require it.
en.wikipedia.org...

ETA: But all these Dem states will just let anyone vote!!
States that don't require voter's IDs: Wyoming, Texas, Arkansas, Alabama, Idaho, Nebraska, New Mexico, etc. etc. etc.

It's a nationwide problem, not a Democrat problem

a reply to: CharlesT

Everything is rigged now, there's no honesty in anything political for sure. Everything is agenda and outcomes based. If texas is seeing this many illegals voting, imagine the real numbers, especially in "blue" states.

Just look at Canada as an example of utter and unadulterated stupidity. We have this idiot child prime moron, justin trudeau, who won a majority with 26% of the available vote split between 3 major parties. Seems to me 100-26 = 74, divide that by 2 and you get 37. Last time I checked 37 was more than 26, at least in the virtual reality where I was brought up. In another province, the conservatives won their election and the liberals called a judge to allow them to stay in power, like WTF? Who the hell is that judge working for? It sure ain't the people.

We live in bizarro world. Right is wrong, up is down, strength is weakness, tolerance is intolerant, peace is violence, consensus is scientific truth, etc. etc. Welcome to the reality of OrthoSpeak ;-)

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: shooterbrody

Yeah, I live in Texas. Mostly changes when it hurts the wrong group, usually business.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Furthermore, only 58,000 of these registered voters are known to have actually cast a vote at some point since 1996.

When some discussing this subject say THERE ARE NO illegal immigrants that vote 58000 is a lot.
Seems the narrative that says THERE ARE NO illegal immigrants that vote is actually the "overhyped fake news".

Well, 58,000 is still only like 0.3% of the population of Texas that are registered vote... Plus, their only claiming that those 58,000 have voted at least once since 1996 and where non-citizens at the time they obtained a license.

So basically, when you consider all that. The percentage of those 58,000 that potentially voted in the last presidential election and still weren't legal citizens, would be absolutely miniscule.

i knew this would be the case. I was wrong in thinking that 58 thousand illegal voters was a problem. Thanks leftie, for setting me straight. Since it's such a small number, we shouldn't really worry about fixing this right? I'm sure this search rooted out every last one who did this too. Gee, you guys are swell.

I question the validity of these claims:

List of 95K ineligible voters on the rolls may be overstated, Texas State Department suggests

But on Tuesday, reports surfaced that local election officials were told by state elections administrators that some of the names were included "in error," in part because many individuals whose names appeared on the list may have become naturalized citizens and therefore cast legal ballots.
...
Lisa Wise, the election administer in El Paso County along the U.S.-Mexico border, said she received a list of 4,100 potential noncitizens. She said her office would investigate, but that after a first scan she could tell all of the names wouldn't hold up.

Sure though, 'illegal voters.' Keep trying. Maybe you'll get a prosecution or two out of it.