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Ukraine declares war on Russia

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posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 09:55 AM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: namehere
a reply to: surfer_soul

i think it's more that they have no choice because russia is coming regardless of what they do, and have you not been paying attention? america, germany and a few other western nations are already fighting russia in the ukraine, so they do have backing just fine.


Do tell...... When was the last US deployment in Ukraine


Now in Ukraine there is an American military base in Nikolaev, a huge number of instructors at both the Yavorsky training ground and in the army, a group of American snipers and an unknown number of mercenaries from the Academy, formerly Blackwater


Helping train is not the same as the claim that US soldiers are in active combat w the Russians...... Also that's not a US base......


In the Donbas even a high-ranking CIA officer was taken prisoner. And how many dark-skinned Americans now lie in the land of Donbass - do not count.

And this was done by the Russians - miners, taxi drivers, farmers, metallurgists of the Donbass. The nation "Ukrainian" does not exist. It was invented at the end of the 19th century by a colonel from the Austrian General Staff.


Sweet...... This has absolutely nothing to do w my post



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 09:57 AM
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originally posted by: namehere
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

there is no deployment since we aren't at war, but we have sent special forces to train ukraine, but i seriously doubt they haven't gotten further involved than just training. there is nothing official but i think it's pretty obvious why we're there with a bit of common sense. but maybe I'm wrong though, we'll see.


I covered that...... And that's exactly my point.... The claim was we were actively engaged in Hostilities w Russia alongside Ukrainians.... And that we have a US base there.......

Neither of which are true



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 09:58 AM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: RussianTroll

Why did you pick a deliberately misleading and inaccurate title?


I wrote what I wrote. If you read my posts, you should know that I work through Google translator


Which seems like a convenient excuse that would be pretty much impossible to prove.

I don't believe you are Russian, I actually think your probably a American (based on your vernacular) who likes to pretend to be a Russian because there is a strong pro-russian sentiment on ATS that is currently popular and your just playing on that. Now I cannot prove that just like you cannot prove that you're a Russian working through google translate other than to say that your posts simply don't read like that.

You picked a deliberately misleading title because while the "Russian" part of your user name may well be a lie; the "troll" bit isn't.
edit on 21-12-2018 by OtherSideOfTheCoin because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 09:59 AM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: namehere
a reply to: surfer_soul

i think it's more that they have no choice because russia is coming regardless of what they do, and have you not been paying attention? america, germany and a few other western nations are already fighting russia in the ukraine, so they do have backing just fine.


Do tell...... When was the last US deployment in Ukraine


Now in Ukraine there is an American military base in Nikolaev, a huge number of instructors at both the Yavorsky training ground and in the army, a group of American snipers and an unknown number of mercenaries from the Academy, formerly Blackwater


Helping train is not the same as the claim that US soldiers are in active combat w the Russians...... Also that's not a US base......


In the Donbas even a high-ranking CIA officer was taken prisoner. And how many dark-skinned Americans now lie in the land of Donbass - do not count.

And this was done by the Russians - miners, taxi drivers, farmers, metallurgists of the Donbass. The nation "Ukrainian" does not exist. It was invented at the end of the 19th century by a colonel from the Austrian General Staff.


Sweet...... This has absolutely nothing to do w my post


I sincerely congratulate you))



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: RussianTroll

Why did you pick a deliberately misleading and inaccurate title?


I wrote what I wrote. If you read my posts, you should know that I work through Google translator


Which seems like a convenient excuse that would be pretty much impossible to prove.

I don't believe you are Russian, I actually think your probably a American (based on your vernacular) who likes to pretend to be a Russian because there is a strong pro-russian sentiment on ATS that is currently popular and your just playing on that. Now I cannot prove that just like you cannot prove that you're a Russian working through google translate other than to say that your posts simply don't read like that.

You picked a deliberately misleading title because while the "Russian" part of your user name may well be a lie but the "troll" bit isn't.


Believe you personally in something, or do not believe, I absolutely do not care. Do not consider yourself a figure equal to Churchill (с)



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 10:02 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

It is also known that Ukraine is fake and homosexual country:

russia-insider.com...



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 10:03 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

You're no more Russian than I am Australian....so not very much.

How about you stop that pretence and tell us all why you chose a deliberately misleading title?



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: Fools
a reply to: RussianTroll

It is also known that Ukraine is fake and homosexual country:

russia-insider.com...


Oh yeah! Today I enjoyed reading this article by Karlin)))



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 10:04 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

It's funny how all the obvious "RussianTrolls" think that Americans don't criticize their country. Guess what? We do. I've made my criticisms of Bush, Obama, and Trump very public.

Womp womp!



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 10:05 AM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: RussianTroll

You're no more Russian than I am Australian....so not very much.

How about you stop that pretence and tell us all why you chose a deliberately misleading title?


And you complain to me of Benjamin Netanyahu)))



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Meanwhile a high ranking Russian intelligence agent was publicly acknowledged as the original leader of the separatists. He also came out and stated they downed MH17.



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

So you admit that the Ukraine has not declared war on Russia?

AS such do you then also admit that your title is misleading?

Why did you then even bother with this thread?



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: RussianTroll

It's funny how all the obvious "RussianTrolls" think that Americans don't criticize their country. Guess what? We do. I've made my criticisms of Bush, Obama, and Trump very public.

Womp womp!


It's funny to watch as especially intelligent citizens start reading your thoughts)))



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: RussianTroll

So you admit that the Ukraine has not declared war on Russia?

AS such do you then also admit that your title is misleading?

Why did you then even bother with this thread?


Blink a couple more times and maybe I will come down to answer you)))



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 10:13 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

So now that you have been called out for deliberately using a click-bait and wholly inaccurate title your unwilling to discuss it further.

Makes sense I I guess.



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 10:18 AM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: RussianTroll

So now that you have been called out for deliberately using a click-bait and wholly inaccurate title your unwilling to discuss it further.

Makes sense I I guess.


Your conjectures and fantasies are funny, but perverted



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 10:27 AM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: RussianTroll

So now that you have been called out for deliberately using a click-bait and wholly inaccurate title your unwilling to discuss it further.

Makes sense I I guess.


He sure replies awful fast.... And in some cases on separate threads, to multiple people, for using Google translate.....

I mean you have to copy what they said, input to translate, formulate his response, re-translate.... Then put that back in the ATS response.....

That's some quick work!



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 10:33 AM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: RussianTroll



That's some quick work!


You flatter me))) Although while you were fighting off the Germans in the Ardennes, the Russians quickly took Berlin)))



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 10:45 AM
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The leaders of the Ukraine are not that smart, Russia will attack their capital first, and they know where their bunkers are, they will use bunker busters to destroy their leaders first. Russia is not required to just kill the common people, that is the west's requirement, attacking the leaders of countries is illegal in warfare in much of the world.

Russia has been in compliance with this in the past but Putin does not care, he will attack the capitals first, the USA would also target Moscow, but doesn't do it to less powerful countries.



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 10:56 AM
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kek, remember two days ago when I posted this?



originally posted by: worldstarcountry
posted on Dec, 19 2018 @ 02:44 PM
Yes I forgot to mention, which I was going to start a thread for but forgot last night, Ukraine was just given a $1.4 billion loan package by the IMF. That should keep them fighting Russia for another year at least, two if they budget properly.

In fact, that loan package was for $3.9 billion of which $1.4 billion is available IMMEDIATELY

IMF Executive Board Approves 14-month US$3.9 Billion Stand-By Arrangement for Ukraine, US$1.4 Billion for Immediate Disbursement
The authorities’ economic program supported by the SBA will build on the progress made under the EFF arrangement. The SBA will provide an anchor for the authorities’ economic policies during 2019 and focus on maintaining macro-economic and financial stability. The program will focus on four priorities: (i) continuing the ongoing fiscal consolidation to keep public debt on a downward path; (ii) further reducing inflation, while maintaining a flexible exchange rate regime; (iii) strengthening the financial sector, promoting asset recovery, and reviving bank lending; and (iv) advancing a focused set of structural reforms, particularly to improve tax administration, privatization and governance.

The approval of the SBA enables the immediate disbursement of SDR 1 billion (about US$1.4 billion). The remainder will be available upon completion of semi-annual reviews.

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“Monetary policy aims to reduce inflation and rebuild international reserves within a flexible exchange rate regime. Safeguarding central bank independence will be crucial in this regard. Efforts are underway to address nonperforming loans, recover assets from failed banks, and improve governance in state-owned banks.

Further progress on anti-corruption reforms and privatization will help attract investment and improve the business climate more broadly. Priorities include operationalizing the anti-corruption court, privatizing large state-owned enterprises, streamlining regulations, and advancing land reform.

Yea, they are going to tackle corruption with Hunter Biden all up in their government sending money back to papa's accounts.

Schweizer's book came out in March, but since then new evidence of the Biden family corruption has come to light. Schweizer told Hilton about a bank account unearthed in a New York conviction against Devon Hunter, a friend of the former vice president's son, Hunter Biden.

"A bank account that Hunter Biden drew a lot of money from and that a lot of foreign entities put a lot of money into," the author noted. "Just to give you an idea, over a 14-month period, from 2014 through early 2016, while Joe Biden is vice president of the United States, a Ukrainian company called Burisma — it's controlled by a very corrupt oligarch — sends three million dollars into this account."

"A Chinese government entity called Bohai Harvest — which is run by the Bank of China — sends $650,000 into this account," Schweizer added. "There's $1.2 million that comes from an LLC with a small boutique Swiss bank. We don't know who's behind the LLC. The bank itself has been charged in six countries for money laundering, so that makes it kind of sketchy."

How does this connect to Joe Biden? Not only was the elder Biden vice president at the time, but he was directly involved with the countries his son struck deals with.

"If you look at the trajectory of Joe Biden as vice president, he was essentially U.S. point person on Chinese policy, and he was widely criticized for going very soft on them as it related to the South China Sea," Schweizer said. "That’s at the same time his son is getting large checks from the Chinese government."

"Joe Biden is also point person on U.S. policy towards Ukraine, at the same time that his son is getting large checks from the Ukrainian government. And he’s accused of looking the other way at fraudulent behavior and corruption with the government of Ukraine," the author added.


ohh yea baby, fight that corruption with stolen money Biden!




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