Is Trump a Fascist? If Hitler was a modern day American? How would he vote?

a reply to: UpIsNowDown

OH, ok.

They did not ban smoking. They did put limits on smoking in public places that were largely ignored, and ran publicity campaigns against smoking, but they did not ban smoking by any means. In fact the number of smokers increased under Nazi rule.

My biggest problem with your post is linking Democrats (who back then were the equivalent of today's Republicans) with being behind the Klan.

a reply to: sligtlyskeptical

I apologize I was indicating that most klan people were democrats, not that it was officially sanctioned by the party.

a reply to: Theocracy4America

The democratic wing that supported the KKK came to be known as the southern democrats. This group no longer exists today. It dissolved after LBJ came to power.

They were characterized by very conservative policies, even farther right than most republicans.

a reply to: toms54

No offense, by the CCCP shut down a while back, but I'm not going to trust a communist still.

a reply to: Theocracy4America

The only communist still I would trust would be one making vodka.

a reply to: toms54

OK, you have me there. I could have someone smuggle something out of Moscow for me, I'd like a bottle of kalashnikov vodka, souvenir bottle.

Well if Hitler was a modern day candidate, he would be alot more militant and probably just as charismatic as he would of been compared to Trump.

He was a social opportunitist.

Although, Hitler could mainly identify as a right winger due to his national pride which parallels with patriotism, he did have left wing values. He was a vegetarian an sympathetic towards animals, loved art work, and was interested in other cultural mythologies like Hinduism. He even got along with certain factions of Islam while others wouldn't.

a reply to: Specimen

He actually was a great artist. I've admired his work in the field of painting. But back to politics, can we all settle on the fact that he was predominately a left wing progressive who happened to be a hardcore nationalist and was also a racist (at least toward the end of his career)?

a reply to: Theocracy4America

Depends on what considered progress more or less from what I'm guessing. I don't doubt that he would use a left wing platform( or both) and all it broken promises to get the German people hopes up, even though he did make Germany a world power house again all the way from the ground.

Although Hitler and his predjudice was very openly stated via propaganda, a modern day Hitler of America would be able to speak to a multitude of people's, if he was. The idea of false Messiah comes to mind.

originally posted by: Theocracy4America
a reply to: Specimen

He actually was a great artist. I've admired his work in the field of painting. But back to politics, can we all settle on the fact that he was predominately a left wing progressive who happened to be a hardcore nationalist and was also a racist (at least toward the end of his career)?

Art appreciation is obviously subjective, but he was considered mediocre at best during his lifetime.

As already pointed out Hitters support was from The right both and domestically and internationally.

Nationalism and racism where integral to his beliefs from the very start of his political career.

a reply to: ScepticScot

He didn't like the multicultural approach of the Hapsburgs in Austria.

People are not cattle.

originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: ScepticScot

He didn't like the multicultural approach of the Hapsburgs in Austria.

People are not cattle.

He seemed very fond of treating them as such.

a reply to: Theocracy4America

Hitler was against democracy. He believed the people were too ignorant, too easily swayed to be entrusted with choosing their government.

Seems of late to fit a particular political bent, that does. Don't you think?

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: ScepticScot

He didn't like the multicultural approach of the Hapsburgs in Austria.

People are not cattle.

He seemed very fond of treating them as such.

Yea he did. It was a bad time, there was a lot of that going around. It leads to war.
The take away is let's not do that today. It's why I don't care for the UN lately.

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Theocracy4America

There is so much factually wrong with your OP it difficult to know where to start.

Nasi party was not left wing. It support came from right wing conservative groups.

They did not disarm the population. They relaxed gun laws for the majority of the population.

They did not ban smoking (not sure where you got that from).

Anti Jewish / minority rhetoric was part of Nazi ideology from the start. Not something that came later.

Not really support came from movement that you really can’t call conservative as we in America use the turm. Germany never had an idea of melting pot conservative America as we do. We really have nothing that looks like the German racist /ultranationalist movement.

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Theocracy4America

There is so much factually wrong with your OP it difficult to know where to start.

Nasi party was not left wing. It support came from right wing conservative groups.

They did not disarm the population. They relaxed gun laws for the majority of the population.

They did not ban smoking (not sure where you got that from).

Anti Jewish / minority rhetoric was part of Nazi ideology from the start. Not something that came later.

Not really support came from movement that you really can’t call conservative as we in America use the turm. Germany never had an idea of melting pot conservative America as we do. We really have nothing that looks like the German racist /ultranationalist movement.

While there are some differences in US & European meanings for right / left they mainly overlap.

The fact that Hitlers support came from the political right is a matter of historical record.

a reply to: SprocketUK

Both sides in America fit there... As a side note, I'm against Democracy for the same reasons, but different solutions of course. I don't believe humans are fit for leadership roles unless they are leading by God's example.

No, not at all. Alex Jones said so.

Hitler? Nobody in America, gives two F's about Hitler or, ... how he'd vote! We'd kick his as* every which way and sideways....until...