Cohen gets 3 years

originally posted by: Sublimecraft

originally posted by: whargoul

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
"Everyone I don't like is a cult member"

Said the triggered cult member.

I bet you were a pussy on the battlefield too, just like you are on ATS.

That is not a very nice thing to say to someone.

But I did get a chuckle from reading that.

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: rickymouse

Keep making excuses for Trump. His house of cards are falling.

I am willing to bet he will be impeached in 2019.

He might be. But no way will the Senate vote 2/3 to remove him. Not for a ticky-tacky campaign finance violation, which so far is the only thing he's being accused of that might actually be a violation of the law. (And which probably isn't a violation at all, since as many legal commentators have pointed out that probably cannot be considered a campaign contribution.)

Also, look into how the Republicans faired after their impeachment of Bill Clinton. It backfired on them big time, and there's every reason to think the same will happen to the Democrats if they impeach Trump.

True, but keep in mind even if he was proven to have committed treason beyond a shadow of a doubt, or is literally in Putin's pocket, the Senate still wouldn't reach the 2/3rds needed to remove him. I purport that rather than removing Trump as the 'endgame' (as you and I both agree he isn't getting removed by a Republican controlled senate), the DEM strategy is instead to tie whichever senators don't vote to remove to whatever crimes are found and hope that hurts their re-election numbers.

LOL. Look how well that worked out for Republicans in the 1990's. They lost control of Congress for many years.

The counter I've already heard to this is that Clinton's popularity was high, whereas Trump's popularity is low, and therefore there is doubt as to the ramifications following the same arc.

originally posted by: ClovenSky
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

But you have to admit, the breadth and width of the following is immense. I haven't really seen the like of it before, especially here on ATS.

I don't really understand it very well myself, but it is fascinating. For being on a conspiracy site, the adherents to the idea of a supersaviour or hero is kind of weird.

I don't think it is about them expecting actual results, at least not from a certain percentage that appear to be most enthusiastic. I think it is completely something different.

I'll take this.

What most people don't understand is, the old paradigm of "liberal vs. conservative" is dead. It really doesn't matter much anymore. The important distinction today is globalist vs. nationalist. Both the Democratic leadership and the "establishment" Republican leaders (who have mostly been forced out after the 2018 election) are globalists. Trump is a nationalist. His supporters are nationalists.

a reply to: Aallanon

It's about time they start putting these slimy Democrats in jail!!!

I found THIS part revealing

Guy Petrillo, a lawyer for Cohen, argued in court for leniency, saying that Cohen offered evidence “against the most powerful person in our country … knowing that he’d face a barrage of attack by the president.”

“He knew that the president might shut down the investigation,” Petrillo said.

Cohen indicated that attacks on him by Trump in recent months had personally stung. “For months now, the president of the United States publicly mocks me,” Cohen said, “calling me a rat and a liar and insisting that the court sentence me to the maximum time in prison”.

Prosecutor Nicolas Roos hit back, saying that Cohen had engaged in “a pattern of deception, of brazenness and of greed” that had “eroded faith in the electoral process and the rule of law”.

Pauley, the judge, said Cohen had “lost his moral compass” and committed a “veritable smorgasbord” of crimes.
“The need for general deterrents is amplified in this case,” Pauley said, adding, “as a lawyer, Mr Cohen should have known better”.

"A veritable veritable smorgasbord of crimes"


What makes this so particularly, spectacularly, bad
is the acknowledgement, in the context of a court sentencing,
that Cohen was working at the behest of his boss
The Donald, himself !

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

Trump is a nationalist.

Yeah neocon's are purely "nationalists" yeah uhuh!

a reply to: Aallanon

3 years!?

I don't like lawyers much either but who did he kill?

They crucified him. I can't say this is proportionate to his lying while under oath.

I'm blown away.

What type of fraud was he guilty of? Anyone know?

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

Trump is a nationalist.

Yeah neocon's are purely "nationalists" yeah uhuh!

No, neocons (like the Bushes) are globalists. They're the guys Trump defeated when he won the primary and who, like Ryan and Flake, have been trying to undermine him ever since. Your typical Trump supporter is not a neocon, and could care less if the lot of them fell off a cliff.

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Aallanon

3 years!?

I don't like lawyers much either but who did he kill?

They crucified him. I can't say this is proportionate to his lying while under oath.

I'm blown away.

What type of fraud was he guilty of? Anyone know?

Something to do with taxi medallions he owned. I admit I never followed that part.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Yet I bump heads with the Trump crowd every time foreign policy comes up: lets bomb iran / north korea / venezuela and so on.

Watch this and tell me the guy is a true nationalist, that America is First, inst a globalist, isnt an imperialist, etc:

a reply to: Aallanon

After I read this article Cohen is pissed at Trump and may cut a plea bargain if he spills the beans

US President Donald Trump's former lawyer Michael Cohen, who once said he’d take a bullet for him, has lashed out at his ex-boss' "dirty deeds" as he was given a 36-month prison sentence.

The disgraced attorney told Judge William Pauley on Wednesday that Mr Trump had caused him to "follow a path of darkness rather than light".

He told the court his "weakness was a blind loyalty to Donald Trump" and that he "felt it was my duty to cover up his dirty deeds".

The sword of Damacles is inching ever so closer over the POTUS' head.

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Aallanon

3 years!?

I don't like lawyers much either but who did he kill?

They crucified him. I can't say this is proportionate to his lying while under oath.

I'm blown away.

What type of fraud was he guilty of? Anyone know?

3 years at club Fed won't be bad. They have a pool and tennis courts, weekly volly ball tournaments, and a state of the art communication center. A perfect environment for his book writing. In 6mo. he will be cut loose with an ankle braclet and a nice check from Simon and Schuster.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

It's actually kind of insane. I am just in awe of everyone cheering a dude getting raped and ruined in jail for lying about a regular thing many politicians do.

No one was paid to keep quiet about a crime. I don't get it

a reply to: olaru12

I hear they even have shape sorting cubes

originally posted by: tadaman
It's actually kind of insane. I am just in awe of everyone cheering a dude getting raped and ruined in jail for lying about a regular thing many politicians do.

So you want members of Congress to go to jail for being criminals? Good luck, most never do.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

If they lie under oath they can expect 3 years in a federal prison apparently.

Everyone using the congressional sexual harassment slush fund should be in jail and financially ruined.

I don't believe that nothing can be done. Bad things could be done, the alternative is the rule of law. Their choice.

Trump should just pardon the guy so we can watch more liberal head explosions.

Anti-Trumpers banking on the shady lawyer who lies to investigators and records his clients without their knowledge. Love it.

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: olaru12

I hear they even have shape sorting cubes

True, and 24hr conjugal visiting rooms.

originally posted by: tadaman
If they lie under oath they can expect 3 years in a federal prison apparently.

Everyone using the congressional sexual harassment slush fund should be in jail and financially ruined.

The track record says otherwise.