Kneeling Detainees Were French Children : New Yellow Vests Symbolism

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

The thread is about being forced to kneel and you called me and Freeborn apologists for the French state.
You must be a snowflake as well if kneeling is so bad in your mind after being caught rioting.
You didn't really think it through did you.

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

it looks like the police came to the school after the protest and set the kids out in this manner so they could threaten them with charges .

So, this is your guess without any supportive evidence?

We've seen people executed in Serbia in the same position , lined up etc .

This is France not Serbia....if you don't understand that then there's little point in continuing this discussion.

LOL @ you 2 ex hardcore protesters turned state apologists for the French !

I suspect the limits to your protesting begin and end at your keyboard.

I'm encouraged that people are willing to stand up for their convictions - being told to kneel by the police hardly equates to the many injustices protesters face around the world.

Perspective; regardless of any of our opinions these 'kids' had broken the law and the police are empowered to apprehend anyone who breaks the law....again, what exactly is wrong with being told to kneel?

Would you have preferred they'd have been provided with some nice comfy sofa's, hot chocolate and something to soothe their bruised feelings because they'd broken the law and the police had the audacity to arrest them for it?

If you play the game and break the law you've got to be prepared to pay the consequences - pretty #ing simple in my eyes!

a reply to: Freeborn
True, you never heard me bitching when cops batoned me after I destroyed GM test crops, it's part of civil disobedience. It is the risk of protest.
Forced to kneel lmfao kids today don't know they're born.

Well I'm refusing to get drawn from this end, sorry . It's just the facts ma'am
The French beleive in something called 'solidarity'

a reply to: DoctorBluechip
Carry on crying that a few rioters were forced to kneel, oh the inhumanity!
Pathetic and lame, outrage over nothing, modern snowflake generation.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

I've done a bit of protesting over the years.

And I've been involved or around the edges of criminal activity all my life and one of the most basic principles still rings true - if you can't do the time don't do the crime.

I've never whinged and moaned about anything, deal with it and get on with it.

Times change and I accept that.
Police brutality towards genuine protesters is not acceptable.

But if people decide to go from peaceful protest to taking direct action and even rioting etc then the police should be expected to do whatever is required to restore order.

I firmly believe that sometimes direct action is the only course of action left for people.
Failure to enact Brexit may be one such occasion.

If that does occur then I wouldn't start moaning and complaining if the police replied using some sort of force - I'd literally laugh in their face if they asked me to kneel!

Perspective.

Snowflakes - I despair!

Then again it could make for an amusing afternoon if you 2 are so set on your high horses , reminds me when Brian had to haggle for a fake beard .

Where they wearing masks then , in the video of the kids ?

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

So, let's start again; where is the injustice in being told to kneel whilst being suspected of committing a crime?

A simple question deserves a simple answer....nothing else required.

a reply to: Freeborn

injustice /ɪnˈdʒʌstɪs/Submit noun lack of fairness or justice. "she was taken aback by the injustice of Nora's remark" an unjust act or occurrence. plural noun: injustices "brooding over life's injustices" synonyms: unfairness, unjustness, inequity, corruption; More

Is it fair , if you are to be identified for future reference while your captors are not identifiable for future reference .

The answer would sensibly be , "No"

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

And you are saying me and CCG are getting on our high horse....wow.

Mountain - molehill springs to mind.

Snowflakes - I despair!

In other news......(feel free to write about any one of the countless other acts of appalling brutality and abuses of power that are occurring the world over.)

originally posted by: DoctorBluechip
Ah so now some reality emerges got a link to that lags?

See Gins response

The trouble is , you're verging onto the territory of violent interrogation and physical torture , on a mass scale , to kids . That's all traditionally more of a wartime pursuit . Not to mention it's summary justice . Some of those kids could have been saying "let's not do this"

Thanks Gin.

This is exactly what’s going on over here right now.

Went shopping into town yesterday (we live in the country side)

Lots of teen age kids chucking stuff around and smashing windows along with the extreme left.

The coppers did a good job yesterday.

a reply to: Gin

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

Its nothing of the sort.
Its not verging on anything other than making sure they all stay there in one place and no-one tries to get away....pretty simple and pretty effective.

The police are not acting as judge, jury and executioner....they've detained them on suspicion of committing a crime, are keeping them in one place until facts are established and further action agreed.

No brutality, no violent interrogation or physical torture.

You appear to be plucking imagined scenario's out of thin air....there's nothing to suspect any of what you allege occurring.

a reply to: Freeborn

Well I'm confused ? You say you're the big protesters but the police have every right to law and order it in every circumstance? I don't get it - do you tell yourself you shouldn't be enjoying it while you spanking monkeys as well ? Cos that's how odd the perspective you're giving is ! We're bumping the thread till the mezzers wake up i guess, stopping ourselves along the way

a reply to: Freeborn

That's right , no videos , pics, nothing .....

*tumbleweed rolls across

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

I'm saying of course its expected that the police react to genuine peaceful protests turning in to something different.

Would you expect them to simply stand back and do nothing?

That's hardly a mixed message - yes, sometimes direct action can get more results than legitimate, peaceful protest but if participating in direct action one can expect the police to try and restrain you and maybe arrest and incarcerate you.

All I see here is some unruly kids suspected of doing something illegal who have been told to kneel - no beatings or anything - whilst facts are established and further course of action is determined by whoever is in charge.

What would you expect the police to do in such a situation?

You seem quick to criticise yet have offered nothing of substance to support your scenario's or explain what you think should have happened or how being asked to kneel is an injustice in this instance.

You've offered absolutely nothing other than vague opinions and imagined postulations.

You're making my head hurt....I feel the pub coming on, damn I was intending to have a dry few days!

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

Peaceful protest is one thing, but burning buildings and cars is quite another.
Yes I have authority issues, yes I've committed criminal acts in my protesting days, and yes I've had the injuries and convictions to show for it.
Crying about a few rioters being forced to kneel is lame as #, and yes, snowflakey as # as well.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: CornishCeltGuy


Failure to enact Brexit may be one such occasion.

Sadly I feel that Brexit is such a divisive issue that any protest will only lead to further division in the population and not be any sort of catalyst for change. The remainers and brexiters will be at odds with each other and the government will ride it out.

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

Where are the pics or video's of these kids being beaten up, tortured, brutalised, violently terrorised or anything vaguely similar?

You previously said you were a historian - please provide either primary or even secondary sources of evidence of this type of police behaviour towards these kids.