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originally posted by: EasternShadow
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Saint Francis of Assisi said "What we are looking for is what is looking".
Look right NOW at what is actually appearing NOW.
Saint Francis of Assisi doesn't learn astronomy. If he does, he should knows, stars are million light years away from us.
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
originally posted by: EasternShadow
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Saint Francis of Assisi said "What we are looking for is what is looking".
Look right NOW at what is actually appearing NOW.
Saint Francis of Assisi doesn't learn astronomy. If he does, he should knows, stars are million light years away from us.
When are the stars seen?
Doesn't seeing happen presently?
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Direct experience will not inform you about 'a million light years'.
Direct experience or immediate experience generally denotes experience gained through immediate sense perception. Many philosophical systems hold that knowledge or skills gained through direct experience cannot be fully put into words.
originally posted by: EasternShadow
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Direct experience will not inform you about 'a million light years'.
No, but mathematics and physics laws inform us more than a million light years.
originally posted by: EasternShadow
Light and distance can deceive what we actually see.
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: EasternShadow
You will never see or hear the past.
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
You see presently...you see what is presenting itself.
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
I would say that 'direct experience' is eating from the tree of life.
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
originally posted by: EasternShadow
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Direct experience will not inform you about 'a million light years'.
No, but mathematics and physics laws inform us more than a million light years.
This thread is about God and the concept of time.........................the CONCEPT of time.
It is said that to enter the Kingdom one has to become as a child...............what does a child not have that you have?
Concepts, ideas, words, language, numbers....knowledge.
A child sees and hears...............didn't Jesus come to teach the blind to see and the deaf to hear?
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
originally posted by: EasternShadow
Light and distance can deceive what we actually see.
What appears can be deceptive............but what is seeing is not!
That is why 'We are looking for what is looking' is such a great pointer.
Look to what is seeing instead of 'what is seen'............turn around and look to what is looking because That is not a lie.
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
originally posted by: EasternShadow
Light and distance can deceive what we actually see.
What appears can be deceptive............but what is seeing is not!
That is why 'We are looking for what is looking' is such a great pointer.
originally posted by: EasternShadow
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
originally posted by: EasternShadow
Light and distance can deceive what we actually see.
What appears can be deceptive............but what is seeing is not!
That is why 'We are looking for what is looking' is such a great pointer.
You see a magician cut a person into two. Does that mean he murdered and ressurect that person?
Don't be silly.
We all know it just illusion.
The great pointer is knowing which one is illusion and which one is real.
originally posted by: EasternShadow
We all know it just illusion.
The great pointer is knowing which one is illusion and which one is real.
originally posted by: EasternShadow
Didn't Jesus also teach you to be wise?
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Listen up.................WHAT APPEARS CAN BE DECEPTIVE.
However, what is SEEING is not.
'We are looking for what is LOOKING'.
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
What is said to be ALL SEEING and all knowing?
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
originally posted by: EasternShadow
Didn't Jesus also teach you to be wise?
Is it wise to believe in things that may not be true?
Is there anything that you know for sure that does not need any belief whatsoever?
originally posted by: EasternShadow
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Listen up.................WHAT APPEARS CAN BE DECEPTIVE.
However, what is SEEING is not.
'We are looking for what is LOOKING'.
Explain "what is LOOKING"
originally posted by: EasternShadow
The pointer is not seeing, but knowing.
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
originally posted by: EasternShadow
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Listen up.................WHAT APPEARS CAN BE DECEPTIVE.
However, what is SEEING is not.
'We are looking for what is LOOKING'.
Explain "what is LOOKING"
You can see what is appearing...these words are appearing. What is seeing these words?
What is 'looking' out of eyes will never be seen....but it is always present.
originally posted by: EasternShadow
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
originally posted by: EasternShadow
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Listen up.................WHAT APPEARS CAN BE DECEPTIVE.
However, what is SEEING is not.
'We are looking for what is LOOKING'.
Explain "what is LOOKING"
You can see what is appearing...these words are appearing. What is seeing these words?
What is 'looking' out of eyes will never be seen....but it is always present.
By your statement, "What is 'looking' out of eyes will never be seen....but it is always present." I assume you agree not to trust everything you see.
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
originally posted by: EasternShadow
The pointer is not seeing, but knowing.
Ok...so what is knowing that there is seeing happening?