The link between Kurt cobain and the war in iraq...

ok, please disregard all bias before reading this thread. I know the title seems like a stretch but here goes...

If you watched the news on april 7th 1994, you know that Kurt cobain commited suicide. If you researched the forensic evidence afterwards you know it was medically impossible for him to have commited suicide under the circumstances.

I wont bore you nirvana haters with all the details, i will only mention one - then link. there has never been one reported case of anyone injecting 1.5mg/ml of heroin and then doing any physical activity afterwards. He would have had to been physically active for at least a few minutes after the dose in this scenario. this proves it was murder, if you dont buy my story read the link.

full story...

Ok, fast forward to 2001/2. Bush claims there are WMD in iraq, and that alquida terror camps that directly threaten the us are present. The case is made to go to war. I remember the polls, we were all for it and believed there were weapons ( i personally wasnt this was the story at the time).

I personally believe that in both cases that the media presented the most likely story that was given to them, in a fashion the public would 'buy'. In the case of Kurt cobain not many people really cared because 'he was just some junkie punk rocker'.

i think the conspiracy is less with the media and more with the government (local in cobains case, seattle police). what do you guys think?

I am a HUGE Nirvana fan.

Now, having said that, I think that maybe you have to much heroin in your systemt with a theory like this.

This is nuts!!


I give you an "A" for effort, but this theory is another example of people trying WAAAAY to hard to find conspiracy where it just doesnt exist.

Dont get me wrong, Kurt may have been murdered, but to link his death to anything larger than that is simply silly.

mountains and mountains of evidence ignored in both cases, i dunno man. i'm not saying that the same people orchestrated it, im saying it was the same M.O.

Next we will be reading the 'theories' of how and why the late Hunter S. Tompson died.

Sanc'.

well, by blowing off my 'theory' completely, you prove my point, that people will believe what the media tells them, even if its not right.

I wonder how long until we hear:

"USA caused Iranian 6.4 quake killing hundreds..."

not only had Kurt killed but started the war in Iraq ...Damn HER Damn her to HELL!

jprophet420....you presented this completely wrong. You are trying to encourage the examining of evidence in each case as a reason to support having an open mind. First mistake was trying to compare a personal(or was it)act with a population movement, i.e. war. The reasons for war, unfortunately, can be hollow with little support beyond the fear and anxiety of the citizenry.


People, if you read the link, you would see that jrprophet420 was using the investigative sense described by the cobain skeptic and trying to encourage its employment in discerning other matters of dubious nature. He wasn't actually trying to connect Cobain with the war.

i know, i was at a losfer words for the title. im usually not but the wording evades me in this case.

as far as my choice of Kurt Cobain, i picked that becasue it is one of the most obvious cases of blatant media/political misconception i could find. I will go as far as to say it is a FACT that he did not commit suicide due to the staggering evidence. I realized a lot of people wouldnt even give this an open mind due to his nature, but to me the corelation is obvious.

thanks for reading the thread with an open mind and giving me advice, that is a lot more than most will do around here.

[edit on 23-2-2005 by jprophet420]

Originally posted by Apollyon
not only had Kurt killed but started the war in Iraq ...Damn HER Damn her to HELL!

Yup, there's a full moon out tonight.



[edit on 23-2-2005 by HowardRoark]

Originally posted by jprophet420

thanks for reading the thread with an open mind and giving me advice, that is a lot more than most will do around here.

No problem. The motto is deny ignorance........and I like the ultimate goal of your thread......it is something I employ already. Maybe you could start a thread about subversive ways in which to disseminate information.....I'd show up.

I am an even HUGER Nirvana fan. LOL

I totally agree. People simply accepted the story which made most sense without even giving a single thought to the real facts. And the real facts show Cobain couldn't have killed himself like that.

The thing is, that's nothing new. People have always blindly accepted anything that sounds good from the media. The proof is all around us.

Originally posted by Apollyon
not only had Kurt killed but started the war in Iraq ...Damn HER Damn her to HELL!

No doubt it was Courtney, but damn I didn't know she was down with those Arabian dudes...ewww She should have made some arab porn.

man, its ok for you to joke about my thread, but please, please please never mention coutney love porn again, please.

in all seriousness, i am going to ask my grandfather about pearl harbor. he wasnt there, but i want to ask him what the general consensus about it was at the time, and if it ever became common knowledge that it had heavy government involvement, and if he ver found out that it was a conspiracy at all. i didnt find out till i was like 27.

the media was nothing like it was today and it must have been so easy to cover that up.

The link between Kurt cobain and the war in iraq...

I think this is ridiculous. I do believe Kurt was murdered...probably by Courtney Love, but the connection with the war in Iraq is a pathetic theory and makes no sense whatsoever!!

How about this theory.....the death of Hunter S. Thompson was connected to the last Bachelor to not get a rose being pissed off and he killed Hunter and made it look like a suicide!! Just as plausible as your theory!!

I do not see how this is tired in with the war in Iraq. The war in Iraq happened due to false imformation by the intelligent services, the media reported that there was weapons because thats what the intelligent reports stated.

Originally posted by infinite
I do not see how this is tired in with the war in Iraq.

It's not...this is one of the silliest things I have read here at ATS, and my IQ has lost point for having even seen it .....while I do believe that Courtney Love is involved in Kurt's death....he has/had/ could/should/would any connection what-so-ever with the war in Iraq!

I'm also failing to see the logical connection between Kurt Cobain's murder and the war on terror in Iraq. I have a very open mind toward these kinds of things, and I'm not sure how one relates to the other.

there has never been one reported case of anyone injecting 1.5mg/ml of heroin and then doing any physical activity afterwards. He would have had to been physically active for at least a few minutes after the dose in this scenario.

Are you saying that the soldiers in Iraq are being injected with "1.5mg/ml" of heroin? How does this relate to Iraq?

By the way, the lethal dose for heroin is 0.05 micrograms/milliliter of blood. Five times the lethal dose would be transcribed as 0.25 micrograms/milliliter of blood.

If you are referring to milligrams, the lethal dose for heroin is typically 200 - 500 milligrams. I've personally seen hardcore heroin addicts survive overdoses of 2000 milligrams, although medical attention was sought immediately after the overdose. This is due to physiological tolerance that was built up over the course of several years of abuse. The quality of life after such an overdose is definitely affected, but it is possible.

MK


[edit on 24-2-2005 by MKULTRA]

I believe all the original poster was saying is -

in both cases, "someone" told the media what to tell the american public because that is the path to acceptance and approval, and that, in both cases what the american public was told was bad information.

and that it was done intentionally. to cover a murder, and to start a war.

the conspiracy isn't about kurt cobain and iraq. it's about the use of the media as tool to create belief in something false by those in power to hide the truth.

Originally posted by LadyV
It's not...this is one of the silliest things I have read here at ATS, and my IQ has lost point for having even seen it .....while I do believe that Courtney Love is involved in Kurt's death....he has/had/ could/should/would any connection what-so-ever with the war in Iraq!

Courtney Love started the Iraq war too!
anyways, i think this subject has been looked into abit too deeply.