Plant 42 requires larger fire truck for a short period

Maybe I'm reading too much into this. Plant 42 needs a particular size fire truck based on the largest plane at the base.

412TW is the 412th Test Wing. Note the short time period.

The agency (412 TW/OL-AFP 42) requires a lease of one Oshkosh T-3000 with Snozzle, with a Period of Performance of June 26, 2018 to October 25, 2018.

The temporary fire truck is known as set 4.

The Aircraft Rescue and Fire Fighting (ARFF) Vehicle Set for Air Force Plant 42 approved by the Vehicle Equipment Management Support Office (VEMSO) is designated as Air Force Set 4. Air Force Set 4 consists of two P-23s or civilian equivalent, one P-19 or civilian equivalent, and on Rapid Intervention Vehicle (all vehicles are Oshkosh brand vehicles). This ARFF set provides a minimum of 8,000 gallons of agent and meets the Air Force requirement for operations conducted at AFP 42. The vehicle set assigned to a base is determined by the largest aircraft presently assigned to that base. Vehicle Set 4 was approved for Air Force Plant 42 based on the "redacted"

It could be they are getting this rental while other trucks are being repaired.

www.fbo.gov...

New B-21 testing as scheduled.
a reply to: gariac

a reply to: gariac

i wonder why the normal truck cant take care of it? foam is foam afterall.

maybe its a halon foam system like they have in some hangers.

The two C-5Cs (yes, I know they're Ms now) go to Skunk Works for maintenance and minor upgrades. They're probably due a check that's more than a phase check but less than a full PDM.

a reply to: SecretsoftheBlueApples

That was what I suspected. Now we have a tight time window.

OSINT!

Most importantly, I now know what a "Snozzle" is.

Years ago when there was passenger service at KPMD and the parking lot was open to civilians, I did a fence watch. Here is a fire truck circa 2008. (12/1/2008)
fire truck
referring page
Odd I never bothered to figure out that F-22 serial.

Looking at the wiki, the last Skywest flight was 12/7/2008.

a reply to: Zaphod58

I bet people that have worked at Palm for a long time get twitchy about C-5's. C-5 burned to the ground

We'll post pics of the C-5's sitting there next month to put this to rest anyway.

Work on the contract will occur at Fort Worth, Texas, Marietta, Ga., and Palmdale, Calif., and is expected to be complete by January 2019, the Pentagon said in a press release.

www.upi.com...

a reply to: gariac

Just to clarify, this is not one truck. It is a SET of four trucks. A P-19 (1000 gallon cap.), two P-23's (3300 gallon cap.) and apparently a T-3000 (3000 gallon capacity) that was stated in the linked FBO page, with a combined minimum capacity of 8000 gallons.

In addition, please provide a link to the second quote block.

olive-drab.com...
en.wikipedia.org...
navyaviation.tpub.com...

a reply to: Sammamishman

Everything I quoted I pulled from the pdf associated with the fbo dot gov page.

If it isn't obvious, I added the word "redacted" where appropriate.

originally posted by: Majic
Most importantly, I now know what a "Snozzle" is.

www.firefighternation.com...

I figured it was a nozzle on a boom. Turns out it is a little bit more.

a reply to: Sammamishman

Ouch. I missed that one in all the previous reports I've read.

I'll see what I can dig up. I'm from Oshkosh and have a lot of friends who work for Oshkosh Corp since they employ probably most of the city and surrounding towns.

originally posted by: Sammamishman
a reply to: gariac

Just to clarify, this is not one truck. It is a SET of four trucks. A P-19 (1000 gallon cap.), two P-23's (3300 gallon cap.) and apparently a T-3000 (3000 gallon capacity) that was stated in the linked FBO page, with a combined minimum capacity of 8000 gallons.

In addition, please provide a link to the second quote block.

olive-drab.com...
en.wikipedia.org...
navyaviation.tpub.com...

Our biggest is 3000 gallons...(Stryker/Oshkosh)
That said we can drain the entire apparatus in 2 mins with all discharges open.
I'm betting they are limited to water and nowhere to draft.

There is a 4200 gallon apparatus. Then you start brining in the semi trucks with nothing but a water trailer.

a reply to: Majic

Don't forget we have piercing nozzles to get inside the fuselage with snozzle too😁

originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: gariac

i wonder why the normal truck cant take care of it? foam is foam afterall.

maybe its a halon foam system like they have in some hangers.

You still need to mix the foam concentrate with water.

It took 5400 gallons from 2 trucks, with an external bucket each of foam mix to cool down one Cessna jets wheels.
Pilot left the E-brake on during takeoff. Lasted 8 mins on half the output.

a reply to: Bigburgh

i was thinking along the lines of the foam using halon to make the bubbles and maybe the older trucks didnt have that option