Bill Cosby, Roman Polanski expelled from Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: schuyler
Next up: Any man accused of smiling at a woman 40 years ago will have his high school diploma summarily revoked.

Yes, taking away the accolades of a pair of convicted rapists is going to lead to that.

The subject is FAR greater than these two people which includes a great number of men who have not been convicted of anything except being accused by the Metoo movement. And doesn't the sudden "conscience" about Roman Polanski after 40 years seem a day late and a dollar short?

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: schuyler
Next up: Any man accused of smiling at a woman 40 years ago will have his high school diploma summarily revoked.

Yes, taking away the accolades of a pair of convicted rapists is going to lead to that.

The subject is FAR greater than these two people which includes a great number of men who have not been convicted of anything except being accused by the Metoo movement.

Great let’s talk about that then, rather than making absurd illogical comparisons with the slipperiest slope arguments we can come up with.

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: schuyler
Next up: Any man accused of smiling at a woman 40 years ago will have his high school diploma summarily revoked.

Yes, taking away the accolades of a pair of convicted rapists is going to lead to that.

The subject is FAR greater than these two people which includes a great number of men who have not been convicted of anything except being accused by the Metoo movement.

Great let’s talk about that then, rather than making absurd illogical comparisons with the slipperiest slope arguments we can come up with.

We are now in a climate of McCarthyism where it is open season against any (usually, but not exclusively) male who has ever winked at the opposite sex without "permission." One of the big problems is that it appears to be retroactive--unless you are Bill Clinton, in which case you can get way with anything. EVEN WITH THESE TWO MISCREANTS the idea seems to be that any honor bestowed on them in times past can be summarily stripped away at the whim of someone not even present originally. So Cosby, for example, gets an honorary degree based on work he has done to promote literacy among disadvantaged youth, and because he has now been convicted of a crime, that degree is revoked? That makes no sense at all. Hence my remark on high school diplomas. Yes, that was hyperbole, and any idiot that does not understand that is a friggin' moron. People are losing their jobs and their livelihood based on mere accusations that they said (SAID, not even 'did') "something inappropriate" years ago when that practice was allowed and encouraged. No trial. No jury. Just summary dismissal. That's totalitarianism pure and simple. IMO being young and male in this country today is intolerably oppressive.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Good, both are vile creatures. Now let's finish the job and remove the rest.

We really need to stop putting Hollyweird on a pedestal.

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: schuyler
Next up: Any man accused of smiling at a woman 40 years ago will have his high school diploma summarily revoked.

Yes, taking away the accolades of a pair of convicted rapists is going to lead to that.

The subject is FAR greater than these two people which includes a great number of men who have not been convicted of anything except being accused by the Metoo movement.

Great let’s talk about that then, rather than making absurd illogical comparisons with the slipperiest slope arguments we can come up with.

We are now in a climate of McCarthyism where it is open season against any (usually, but not exclusively) male who has ever winked at the opposite sex without "permission." One of the big problems is that it appears to be retroactive--unless you are Bill Clinton, in which case you can get way with anything. EVEN WITH THESE TWO MISCREANTS the idea seems to be that any honor bestowed on them in times past can be summarily stripped away at the whim of someone not even present originally. So Cosby, for example, gets an honorary degree based on work he has done to promote literacy among disadvantaged youth, and because he has now been convicted of a crime, that degree is revoked? That makes no sense at all. Hence my remark on high school diplomas. Yes, that was hyperbole, and any idiot that does not understand that is a friggin' moron. People are losing their jobs and their livelihood based on mere accusations that they said (SAID, not even 'did') "something inappropriate" years ago when that practice was allowed and encouraged. No trial. No jury. Just summary dismissal. That's totalitarianism pure and simple. IMO being young and male in this country today is intolerably oppressive.

Honorary degree

And convicted of a crime? Do you mean 3 counts of sexual misconduct, specifically drugging, and raping a woman, surrounded by multiple accounts from multiple other women.

Roman Polanski has sex with a 13 year old girl.

So yeah, maybe if you don’t want your honorary degree taken away from you... don’t #ing rape people.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Bill Cosby is a legit rapist. Roman Polanski, it was consensual, according to the victim.

a reply to: richapau


It was consensual according to the 13 year old victim.

Does that seem legit to anyone?

Good on Both. I don't see a problem with kicking either of them out of some association.

No statute of limitations.
Conviction based purely on testimony of events from 20 -30 years ago?
Collaboration between witnesses is very possible in this day and age.
So what if their stories match?
Why didn't they report a sexual assault when it happened?
This whole #metoo movement has a Salem witch trials quality to it.
They smell money and come running with their stories.
Sorry, but without physical evidence I could never convict someone of such a serious crime.
Many an actual murderer has walked for lack of it.
It used to be part of our judicial system required for convictions btw,

Back in the 70's and 80's everyone did drugs, that's just how it was.
People hooked up and nobody said they were raped.
Now you can get instant sympathy and often fame just by making allegations.
Tawana Brawley? The Duke rape case? the Charlottesville rape case?
As it turned out the men didn't do anything but be near a psychotic woman.
These men had their lives ruined by false allegations.
What happened to the women lying about it? NOTHING.

This only happened after Cosby took on the sacred cow of single motherhood and telling boys to pull their pants up and speak English and get an education. Not at all related, right?

this action by the academy is at best a pr stunt
But in reality a HYPOCRITICAL INSULT TO EVERY SEXUAL ASSAULT VICTIM.

Lets cut to the chase in each specific case.

First Bill cosby.
IF what all this accusers were claiming why did they wait 10 and in some cases 30 YEARS to file charges or even make accusations?
Even if you take into account the "reason" of his "power in the industry", with the willingness of attorneys with agendas or wanting to make a name for themselves over the last 20 years there was ample help to file charges (criminal or civil).
Notice that not one accusation ever came into light UNTIL Bill Cosby conservative views were going against the liberal hollywood propoganda.

Add to the fact hollywood screams "innocent until proven guilty" and "everyone deserves their day in court" for every MURDER , minority (do I have to spell it out) involved with police, ect.

But when it involves a sex crime all women have to be believed and "innocent until proven guilty" is not applicable.

well thats not true..look at bill clinton and roman Polanski (more on that in a sec) .

So its ok to make an accusation against someone that THEY HAVE TO PROVE INNOCENCE if sex crime on someone not a liberal or not in their good graces.....
to hades with PHYSICAL PROOF.

If what happened to bill cosby isnt bad enough (note IF PROOF he is guilt then I am all for punishing him) what they have done with Roman Polanski is beyond reality.

Lets give some FACTS first

He PLEAD GUILTY TO RAPING A 13 YEAR OLD GIRL

He negotiated with the prosecutor for a sentence that to call it a "slap on the wrist" is an understatement of the level of calling genocide a minor crime.

the Judge threw out the plea deal and told Polanski he had two choices.
A. rescind his plea and go to trial
B. Keep his plea and take his chances at sentencing .

He FLED to avoid persecution to a country that will not extradite him to the US.

so a warrant for his arrest was issued and STILL ACTIVE

these FACTS are NOT IN QUESTION and have been known SINCE 1978...OVER 40 YEARS.

Up until this proclamation from the academy here is more FACTS .

the film industry as a whole first claimed his innocence and alot claimed it was CONSENSUAL.
BTW a 13 year old BACK THEN AND EVEN TODAY CANNOT CONSENT TO SEX WITH AN ADULT.

When that failed a few decades later the victim said she wanted the charges dropped...
again something that WOULD NOT BE ACCEPTABLE under law much less what feminist and hollywood claims .

If that were not damning enough of the view of hollywood in 2003 he was nominated for best director.
the hollywood establishment AS A WHOLE tried to make it where he could attend.
when that failed they had a stand in in case he won .
SPOILER....HE DID WIN THE AWARD.
Now knowing all these facts the final and most disgusting and damning act was when the his winning was announced THE WHOLE AUDITORIUM , ALL THE KEY ACTORS/ACTRESSES, AND ALL THOSE CLAIMING NOW TO BE AGAINST SEXUAL ASSAULT/ABUSE/RAPE .......GAVE HIM A STANDING OVATION AND CALLS OF PRAISE.
..

now all of a sudden they are banning him for sexual crimes after 40 YEARS ?

WTF

I could bring up weinsten , the culture of hollywood, the comments of past female stars, and in short TONS (if not figurative also literal ) FACTS.

But the case of ROMAN POLANSKI ALONE DESTROYS any legitimacy that hollywood as a whole and the acadamy specifically
they claim on being against sexual harassment, sexual assault, rape and child rape.

Again this is an INSULT to human decency and those who were victims of SEX CRIMES.

how anyone can give credit instead of condemnation to the acadamy specifically and the majority of hollywood actors/actresses (some are genuine but damn few) shows how their supporters are as morally bankrupt and dishonest as they are.

Scrounger

a reply to: Jefferton

Railroaded? how can that be when he commited crime,why don't liberals think before blurting out,because they have no mind

originally posted by: Jefferton
Another victory for the #GiveMeAttentionToo generation!