Wisconsin govt. approves diverting Lake Michigan water for Taiwan's Foxconn

a reply to: BotheLumberJack

Water shortages in Racine? Since when?

The water would be withdrawn by the Racine water treatment plant. Some 4.3 million gallons would be treated and returned to the lake, while 2.7 million gallons would be lost in the manufacturing process. The general manager of the Racine treatment plant says the 7 million gallons a day request would fall well within the 60-million gallons a day Racine is authorized to withdraw under the compact.

“On an average day like today we are probably drawing 15 million gallons. In the past decades of the ‘80, ‘70s, ‘90s, we used to draw 25 million gallons no problem every day of the year,” said Keith Haas, general manager of the City of Racine Water Utility. “Even by diverting 7 million gallons a day to this straddling community area, we won’t even get back up to where we were in the ‘70s, ‘80s and 90s.”

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You want them to ship 2.7 million gallons a day from Taiwan? Yeah, it's probably cheaper to get it out of the lake.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: BotheLumberJack

Water shortages in Racine? Since when?

The water would be withdrawn by the Racine water treatment plant. Some 4.3 million gallons would be treated and returned to the lake, while 2.7 million gallons would be lost in the manufacturing process. The general manager of the Racine treatment plant says the 7 million gallons a day request would fall well within the 60-million gallons a day Racine is authorized to withdraw under the compact.

“On an average day like today we are probably drawing 15 million gallons. In the past decades of the ‘80, ‘70s, ‘90s, we used to draw 25 million gallons no problem every day of the year,” said Keith Haas, general manager of the City of Racine Water Utility. “Even by diverting 7 million gallons a day to this straddling community area, we won’t even get back up to where we were in the ‘70s, ‘80s and 90s.”

chicagotonight.wttw.com...

You want them to ship 2.7 million gallons a day from Taiwan? Yeah, it's probably cheaper to get it out of the lake.

I report the News, I don't write it.

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack
a reply to: DanDanDat

I'm sure they're not the only ones.

So you dont object to the Taiwanese (or someone else) using natural resources to build our electronics so long as those natural resources aren't our natural resources?

I object to foreign interest for gain.

What's wrong with Americans doing it themselves?

So it wouldn't be a Human Rights Violation if a American company withdraw 7 million gallons of water daily from the lake to build our electronics?

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack
a reply to: DanDanDat

I'm sure they're not the only ones.

So you dont object to the Taiwanese (or someone else) using natural resources to build our electronics so long as those natural resources aren't our natural resources?

I object to foreign interest for gain.

What's wrong with Americans doing it themselves?

So it wouldn't be a Human Rights Violation if a American company withdraw 7 million gallons of water daily from the lake to build our electronics?

We have too many electronics how much more does a Civilization need before it cocks out and dies due to over consumption.

a reply to: BotheLumberJack
Ok.

How about a news report about water shortages in Racine?

originally posted by: makemap
Democracy at its best. Oh right, this ain't democracy, its corporatism.

It's always Corporation. Unfortunately, people would sell themselves out for anything, even life sustaining water.

Funny how you can't collect rain water in certain areas but you can sell out to foreign interest.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: BotheLumberJack
Ok.

How about a news report about water shortages in Racine?

Why would I do that?

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack
a reply to: DanDanDat

I'm sure they're not the only ones.

So you dont object to the Taiwanese (or someone else) using natural resources to build our electronics so long as those natural resources aren't our natural resources?

I object to foreign interest for gain.

What's wrong with Americans doing it themselves?

So it wouldn't be a Human Rights Violation if a American company withdraw 7 million gallons of water daily from the lake to build our electronics?

We have too many electronics how much more does a Civilization need before it cocks out and dies due to over consumption.

So now WE are the human rights violators because we consume to many electronics that require (in part) the withdrawal of 7 million gallons from the lake to manufacture?

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack
a reply to: DanDanDat

I'm sure they're not the only ones.

So you dont object to the Taiwanese (or someone else) using natural resources to build our electronics so long as those natural resources aren't our natural resources?

I object to foreign interest for gain.

What's wrong with Americans doing it themselves?

So it wouldn't be a Human Rights Violation if a American company withdraw 7 million gallons of water daily from the lake to build our electronics?

We have too many electronics how much more does a Civilization need before it cocks out and dies due to over consumption.

So now WE are the human rights violators because we consume to many electronics that require (in part) the withdrawal of 7 million gallons from the lake to manufacture?

Everyone is some of which can't be helped, even the Cows - Al Gore said so.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: BotheLumberJack

Yes. 2.7 million would be "consumed" by the plant. Presumably the rest would be returned to the lake or used by the community.

I'm not sure how that would violate the Great Lakes Compact.

And the waste water? Back into the lake or downstream to poison plant and animal.

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack
a reply to: DanDanDat

I'm sure they're not the only ones.

So you dont object to the Taiwanese (or someone else) using natural resources to build our electronics so long as those natural resources aren't our natural resources?

I object to foreign interest for gain.

What's wrong with Americans doing it themselves?

So it wouldn't be a Human Rights Violation if a American company withdraw 7 million gallons of water daily from the lake to build our electronics?

We have too many electronics how much more does a Civilization need before it cocks out and dies due to over consumption.

So now WE are the human rights violators because we consume to many electronics that require (in part) the withdrawal of 7 million gallons from the lake to manufacture?

Everyone is some of which can't be helped, even the Cows - Al Gore said so.

So if everyone is a human rights violator, and it cant be helped, what exactly are your objections?

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack
a reply to: DanDanDat

I'm sure they're not the only ones.

So you dont object to the Taiwanese (or someone else) using natural resources to build our electronics so long as those natural resources aren't our natural resources?

I object to foreign interest for gain.

What's wrong with Americans doing it themselves?

So it wouldn't be a Human Rights Violation if a American company withdraw 7 million gallons of water daily from the lake to build our electronics?

We have too many electronics how much more does a Civilization need before it cocks out and dies due to over consumption.

So now WE are the human rights violators because we consume to many electronics that require (in part) the withdrawal of 7 million gallons from the lake to manufacture?

Everyone is some of which can't be helped, even the Cows - Al Gore said so.

So if everyone is a human rights violator, and it cant be helped, what exactly are your objections?

I've already told you. Please scroll up.

a reply to: BotheLumberJack

The point is, that they're getting away with it at all.

Getting away with what? Employing over 2000 thousand Americans?

The company expects to have at least 1,040 employees in Wisconsin by the end of next year, and another 1,040 by the end of 2019.

www.jsonline.com...

originally posted by: FyreByrd

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: BotheLumberJack

Yes. 2.7 million would be "consumed" by the plant. Presumably the rest would be returned to the lake or used by the community.

I'm not sure how that would violate the Great Lakes Compact.

And the waste water? Back into the lake or downstream to poison plant and animal.

It will be pretreated at the facility before going to the city's wastewater treatment plant before going back into the lake.

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack
a reply to: DanDanDat

I'm sure they're not the only ones.

So you dont object to the Taiwanese (or someone else) using natural resources to build our electronics so long as those natural resources aren't our natural resources?

I object to foreign interest for gain.

What's wrong with Americans doing it themselves?

So it wouldn't be a Human Rights Violation if a American company withdraw 7 million gallons of water daily from the lake to build our electronics?

We have too many electronics how much more does a Civilization need before it cocks out and dies due to over consumption.

So now WE are the human rights violators because we consume to many electronics that require (in part) the withdrawal of 7 million gallons from the lake to manufacture?

Everyone is some of which can't be helped, even the Cows - Al Gore said so.

So if everyone is a human rights violator, and it cant be helped, what exactly are your objections?

I've already told you. Please scroll up.

What I gather from scrolling up is that you object to your natural resources being used to manufacture your consumables. You would much rather see other peoples natural resources used up in the manufacturing of your consumables. You are willing to call out the use of your natural resources in the manufacturing of your consumables a "human rights violation" that must be stopped; but accept the "human rights violations" that would result in the use of other peoples natural resources in the manufacturing of your consumables as "cant be helped".

Have I gotten the basics of your argument?

originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: FyreByrd

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: BotheLumberJack

Yes. 2.7 million would be "consumed" by the plant. Presumably the rest would be returned to the lake or used by the community.

I'm not sure how that would violate the Great Lakes Compact.

And the waste water? Back into the lake or downstream to poison plant and animal.

It will be pretreated at the facility before going to the city's wastewater treatment plant before going back into the lake.

Yeah, right. Like in Detroit? The manufactures got clean water, everyone eise.... well....

a reply to: DanDanDat

It's a problem.

I just see it as stupid that so much foreign interest has rights to things that it's own Country's Citizens don't always. There's always another way, always. Mammoths this large don't see anything but $ signs in their eyes. Look at large swathes of China for example, you're lucky if you can see the Sky and that's on a good day. Why do you think that is?

What we need are suggestions as to 'fix' the problem, not enhance it and continue the same path that lead other Countries into a ditch. That's all I'm saying.

originally posted by: FyreByrd

originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: FyreByrd

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: BotheLumberJack

Yes. 2.7 million would be "consumed" by the plant. Presumably the rest would be returned to the lake or used by the community.

I'm not sure how that would violate the Great Lakes Compact.

And the waste water? Back into the lake or downstream to poison plant and animal.

It will be pretreated at the facility before going to the city's wastewater treatment plant before going back into the lake.

Yeah, right. Like in Detroit? The manufactures got clean water, everyone eise.... well....

I don't know specifically what you're referring to but the plant will use the same water used in the rest of the city.

a reply to: BotheLumberJack

Don't worry. Scott Pruitt is on it.
Busily doing away with regulations. Yay.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: BotheLumberJack

Don't worry. Scott Pruitt is on it.
Busily doing away with regulations. Yay.

Ah, you mean this guy?
The Swamp Monster

It would seem a few people in Australia aren't happy with this guy either.