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originally posted by: schuyler
Yeah, well, so? Idi Amin was right. Actions, i.e.: speech, have consequences. You live in a social realm, not alone, and your speech affects that social realm. If you swear at me and I punch you in the face, I just committed a felony, and so my own actions have consequences as well, perhaps more severe for me than for you. You seem to be suggesting that the recipient of speech is obligated to accept whatever you say passively and that any other action is interfering with that person's "free speech." If you say something idiot is and I respond with, "You're an idiot." I am exercising my free speech as well. If that bothers you, then our roles have been reversed and suddenly yu are the aggrieved party. What would you have us all do and how would you enforce it?
originally posted by: Asktheanimals
a reply to: schuyler
Quoting Idi Amin as a source for valid ideas? C'mon now.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: schuyler
Yeah, well, so? Idi Amin was right. Actions, i.e.: speech, have consequences. You live in a social realm, not alone, and your speech affects that social realm. If you swear at me and I punch you in the face, I just committed a felony, and so my own actions have consequences as well, perhaps more severe for me than for you. You seem to be suggesting that the recipient of speech is obligated to accept whatever you say passively and that any other action is interfering with that person's "free speech." If you say something idiot is and I respond with, "You're an idiot." I am exercising my free speech as well. If that bothers you, then our roles have been reversed and suddenly yu are the aggrieved party.? What would you have us all do and how would you enforce it
You punching me in the nose is the consequence of you own choice, not my words. Simple physics and biology.
Human beings tend to profess the superstition that speech possesses causal powers extending beyond the obvious and measurable. Words affect us like spells and curses, are capable of manipulating human beings into uncontrollable action.
There is no consequence of free speech that differs in any way, with slight variation, to any other human noise-making. The so-called consequences of free speech, used as it is to justify the censorship of a speaker, is rather the consequence of superstitious, unthinking men, unable to endure having their sentiments outraged
originally posted by: schuyler
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: schuyler
Yeah, well, so? Idi Amin was right. Actions, i.e.: speech, have consequences. You live in a social realm, not alone, and your speech affects that social realm. If you swear at me and I punch you in the face, I just committed a felony, and so my own actions have consequences as well, perhaps more severe for me than for you. You seem to be suggesting that the recipient of speech is obligated to accept whatever you say passively and that any other action is interfering with that person's "free speech." If you say something idiot is and I respond with, "You're an idiot." I am exercising my free speech as well. If that bothers you, then our roles have been reversed and suddenly yu are the aggrieved party.? What would you have us all do and how would you enforce it
You punching me in the nose is the consequence of you own choice, not my words. Simple physics and biology.
You are avoiding the question. What would you have us all do and how would you enforce it?