Breaking: Republican Debbie Lesko wins special general election to replace Franks

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: rnaa
District 8 is demographic is dominated by the huge number of retirement centers.

Also known as God's waiting room.

I am curious though how many of those people are snowbird equivalents.

More and more Snowbirds are becoming permanent residents.

a reply to: UKTruth

So getting out and voting is something that should be derided? No wonder democracy seems to be in its death throes.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: UKTruth

So getting out and voting is something that should be derided? No wonder democracy seems to be in its death throes.

Derided for voting? No.
But the left are voting on one issue. Stop Trump. It's their motivation. It has no rhyme or reason, no depth. Just hatred.
That's all fine - anyone can vote for whatever reason they want, but we know the left have no policies to run on.

originally posted by: rnaa
a reply to: whywhynot

The 21% stat refers to Congressional district number 8, which is only a small part of Maricopa County.

District 8 is demographic is dominated by the huge number of retirement centers.

So again got a link for your claim?

a reply to: UKTruth

Kind of like how the Republicans in 2010 were voting on one issue, stop Obama? That led to a historic Republican wave.

originally posted by: whywhynot

originally posted by: rnaa
a reply to: whywhynot

The 21% stat refers to Congressional district number 8, which is only a small part of Maricopa County.

District 8 is demographic is dominated by the huge number of retirement centers.

So again got a link for your claim?

Which claim?

Here is information about the special election results which includes a map showing the 8th district as a portion of the Phoenix Metro area, which much smaller than Maricopa county. Is that what you are looking for?

Arizona Special Election Results: Eighth House District

Here is another link that includes a discussion on the spending for the campaign. Is that what you are looking for?

Republican Lesko wins Arizona special election

EDIT: Also this about 2016: United States presidential election in Arizona, 2016: By congressional district

Need more information? Try here ... or here

originally posted by: rnaa

originally posted by: whywhynot

originally posted by: rnaa
a reply to: whywhynot

The 21% stat refers to Congressional district number 8, which is only a small part of Maricopa County.

District 8 is demographic is dominated by the huge number of retirement centers.

So again got a link for your claim?

Here is information about the special election results which includes a map showing the 8th district as a portion of the Phoenix Metro area, which much smaller than Maricopa county. Is that what you are looking for?

Just a note: I did read this. It reads very confusing. But, that whole area tends to be very conservative as far as I know.

After redistricting for the 2012 general election, the new 8th district encompasses most of the Maricopa County portion of the old 2nd district, while most of the former 8th district became the 2nd congressional district.[3] It is the geographic and demographic successor of the old 2nd; while the 4th district contains most of the old 2nd's land, more than 92 percent of the old 2nd's constituents were drawn into the 8th. en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: Annee

That word salad about what happened in the 2012 redistricting doesn't tell you anything of value.

Perhaps this picture will help: Arizona 8th map Notice that it is centered on Sun City and Surprise. That is Joe Arpaio's heartland. The Surprise Tea Party is the group that turned Arpaio into a birther. Sun City is square mile after square mile of retiree homes and trailer parks.

Can you see where Maricopa County is? The counties are not labeled on that map.

Here is a county map. Arizona County Map

Here is a breakdown of all of en.wikipedia.org... There are FIVE congressional districts covering the Phoenix metropolitan area, and the rest of Maricopa County is split between two other congressional districts.

Yes, most of Arizona is nominally 'conservative'. The more 'liberal' hotbeds are in Southern Arizona (Tucson) and North Central Arizona (Flagstaff). But the state overall is within 5% of being 'balanced' these days. A 25% swing to the Democrats would see it turn fairly dark blue.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: UKTruth

So getting out and voting is something that should be derided? No wonder democracy seems to be in its death throes.

Derided for voting? No.
But the left are voting on one issue. Stop Trump. It's their motivation. It has no rhyme or reason, no depth. Just hatred.
That's all fine - anyone can vote for whatever reason they want, but we know the left have no policies to run on.

Nothing new under the sun.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: UKTruth

So getting out and voting is something that should be derided? No wonder democracy seems to be in its death throes.

Derided for voting? No.
But the left are voting on one issue. Stop Trump. It's their motivation. It has no rhyme or reason, no depth. Just hatred.
That's all fine - anyone can vote for whatever reason they want, but we know the left have no policies to run on.

Nothing new under the sun.

Not really relevant to today - other than the 'get our own back' element of the lefts hate fuelled motivations.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: UKTruth

So getting out and voting is something that should be derided? No wonder democracy seems to be in its death throes.

Derided for voting? No.
But the left are voting on one issue. Stop Trump. It's their motivation. It has no rhyme or reason, no depth. Just hatred.
That's all fine - anyone can vote for whatever reason they want, but we know the left have no policies to run on.

Nothing new under the sun.

Not really relevant to today - other than the 'get our own back' element of the lefts hate fuelled motivations.

Totally relevant as it shows this isn't a new attitude towards a sitting president.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: UKTruth

So getting out and voting is something that should be derided? No wonder democracy seems to be in its death throes.

Derided for voting? No.
But the left are voting on one issue. Stop Trump. It's their motivation. It has no rhyme or reason, no depth. Just hatred.
That's all fine - anyone can vote for whatever reason they want, but we know the left have no policies to run on.

Nothing new under the sun.

Not really relevant to today - other than the 'get our own back' element of the lefts hate fuelled motivations.

Totally relevant as it shows this isn't a new attitude towards a sitting president.

I didn't say it was a new attitude, so it is rather irrelevant.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: UKTruth

So getting out and voting is something that should be derided? No wonder democracy seems to be in its death throes.

Derided for voting? No.
But the left are voting on one issue. Stop Trump. It's their motivation. It has no rhyme or reason, no depth. Just hatred.
That's all fine - anyone can vote for whatever reason they want, but we know the left have no policies to run on.

Nothing new under the sun.

Not really relevant to today - other than the 'get our own back' element of the lefts hate fuelled motivations.

Totally relevant as it shows this isn't a new attitude towards a sitting president.

I didn't say it was a new attitude, so it is rather irrelevant.

So it's only relevant when it's YOUR guy getting the treatment? Got it.

a reply to: intrepid

No, more like an observation about the here and now is only relevant to the here and now, obviously.
I do, however, thank you for emphasising that 'getting back at Republicans' is very much part of the lefts hateful ideology that we see today.

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: intrepid

No, more like an observation about the here and now is only relevant to the here and now, obviously.

Really? Cool. I guess we can stop blaming Obama and Hillary for all the world's woes now, can't we?

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: intrepid

No, more like an observation about the here and now is only relevant to the here and now, obviously.

Really? Cool. I guess we can stop blaming Obama and Hillary for all the world's woes now, can't we?

Can you? That is a question you need to answer for yourself.
It's also completely irrelevant to the point made.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: intrepid

No, more like an observation about the here and now is only relevant to the here and now, obviously.

Really? Cool. I guess we can stop blaming Obama and Hillary for all the world's woes now, can't we?

Can you? That is a question you need to answer for yourself.
It's also completely irrelevant to the point made.

Hey.We're using YOUR logic here. Are we backpedaling now?

Backpeddling from what?

originally posted by: UKTruth

Backpeddling from what?

What's relevant. I'd quit dude. You've...

a reply to: intrepid

You're being silly. UK Truth's main point(correct me if I'm wrong UKTRUTH) was:

But the left are voting on one issue. Stop Trump. It's their motivation. It has no rhyme or reason, no depth. Just hatred.

I don't believe he was making a Pro or against that, just stating his opinion. You're making up points for him and acting like if he stated them

Quite Frankly I don't even think UKTruth is a trump supporter so it's been fun watching you two go back and forth