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New SA president plans to take land from whites without compensation

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posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 11:25 AM
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a reply to: Ursushorribilis

Did you forget that most of the slaves were sold of by other Africans? Many were slaves before the Europeans came to trade and exploit.



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: Ursushorribilis
a reply to: CulturalResilience

Your right. I forgot white people are native to Africa. It's not like they stole, raped, and killed to live there.



Ummm... you do realize that everyone born in Africa...is a native of Africa...right...?

Regardless of melanin content...

So yessir...your absolutely correct...White people born in Africa are Native Africans...imagine that...





YouSir



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: SaturnFX
Hard working familys, and they will lose their land. every political party is in favor of this without compensation. This is going to make a minor refugee crisis.

I will stand with the liberals here...refugees should be taken in the west and set up to become productive citizens. they are farmers, give em farmland (lord knows we got plenty of it)

Eventually SA will starve once they purify their lands and remove all white people without even considering how they are removing the professionals without a backup plan.
Then I guess we can drop bags of rice so they can continue their existance and I don't know...have a civil war and murder the idiots who thought it was a good idea to kick out the professional farmers without having someone step in their place...but after a few generations, the survivors of the wars and famine will get the hang of it. Then they can purify further and figure out which specific bloodline of the skintone is meant to have the farmland. rinse, repeat.

I'm with you on taking the working "refugees" and set them up with some farmland. There are ways to solve these kinds of problems if people are willing. I'v said in the past that we should carve out a part of the Baja Peninsula and and call it "New Israel". All Israelies can move there. Palestine can have the old Israel and the middle east can relax knowing the jews are not among them.

Happy Africa... Happy Middle East. That leaves Korea.



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti

Happy Africa... Happy Middle East. That leaves Korea.

Montana. huge place, mostly uninhabited. 20m north koreans..would be fantastic. It would be a superstate in no time flat.

...or we could just kill their tyrants and let the south unite with the north for best results....otherwise, Montana

I would prefer Montana personally, simply because I would love to leave the country without having to leave the country.



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 11:50 AM
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posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: CulturalResilience

Oh make no mistake.. they will have plenty of support..almost certainly more support than the world gives your average African nation..

How bad did the genocides in Africa get before the west intervention??

Millions dead right??


I guess you forgot about soem Whites were also native in south africa huh? Most of the Blacks came from the other africa but hey dont let facts stop your bias.



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti

Happy Africa... Happy Middle East. That leaves Korea.

Montana. huge place, mostly uninhabited. 20m north koreans..would be fantastic. It would be a superstate in no time flat.

...or we could just kill their tyrants and let the south unite with the north for best results....otherwise, Montana

I would prefer Montana personally, simply because I would love to leave the country without having to leave the country.

If I recall, Ted Turner is one of, if not the biggest, land owners in Montana. He could donate the land and wouldn't cost taxpayers anything. Hey can we come up with solutions or what?



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Whilst i understand where you are coming from, we had global outrage at the apartheid system. Where is that outrage when the abuses are coming back the other way?

Not surprised though, Zuma was like Mother Theresa when compared to Ramaphosa and views of whites.



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: CulturalResilience

Millions of dead white colonists???


In Africa this is small potatos.. if some black native farmers are being assaulted.. you don’t make a peep and neither does any western power..

Your asking them to be biased for whites in this specific case..


When millions are dead and the West stil doesn’t move you will have a point.

Because we waited till millions were dead to move every other time..



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 12:15 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

after more than 100 years technically they are natives.



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: Ursushorribilis

If you can take it and hold it. It is yours..

That has been the way of things for all of human history.



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 12:48 PM
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originally posted by: Ursushorribilis
a reply to: CulturalResilience

You mean, there were no European settlements there yet. They fixed that issue in a jiffy. There were people there. The people were not white enough I guess.



It's clear to everyone that you weighed in on this thread based on emotion, rather than actually having any understanding or knowledge of the subject. You are certainly not the first to do that and you wont be the last. If you bow out gracefully now you will at least have some credibility in tact.
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posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: CulturalResilience

Millions of dead white colonists???


In Africa this is small potatos.. if some black native farmers are being assaulted.. you don’t make a peep and neither does any western power..

Your asking them to be biased for whites in this specific case..


When millions are dead and the West stil doesn’t move you will have a point.

Because we waited till millions were dead to move every other time..


Where did I say anything about millions of dead white colonists?



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 01:19 PM
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o tempora o mores

That was the way of the time 1600, happened in US too. The fact what OP said is the land previously taken from the farmers turned into unprodctive land and so the rest most likely will do the same. This will make even more famine in the area and lead to mass immigrations once more. Not to forget HIV positives SA have.. immigration will be one step closer to doom.



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 01:22 PM
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a reply to: trollz

I hate to say it, but whites need to leave SA.

They arent welcomed by the ironically racist government.

What I will say now can be seen a racist on my part....but without European contributions, South Africa will become a strip mine whose wealth is traded for Ak47s.

Civil warS to follow. Like the rest of Africa beyond a hope and a prayer.

I dont think its a race issue. I know any human is capable of anything.

I do think its a cultural issue indigenous to African nations. There is only so much blame you can throw around before you are holding your own mess.


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posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 01:24 PM
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So, unsurprisingly we have the idiotic "well, the white people did it before so it's fair enough" argument.

It says, in some cases, the lands have been occupied by white farmers since the 1600's. They've lived there 100 years longer than the USA has even existed as a county. The people living there now have absolutely zero to do with what was going on over 400 years ago.

If you think this argument is solid then I suppose if Trump declared that you and your family had to move out of your house with immediate effect, with no compensation, to make way for a native American family, then you'd just pack up and head for the nearest underpass would you? I mean, fairs fair isn't it?

Hell, even more recently, us Brits colonised the states before you forcibly took the lands right? So, you gonna let me have your house? Seems I have a more legitimate claim to it than you?



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 01:39 PM
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a reply to: SaturnFX

You don’t know anything about these people..

They are from the exact same type of war torn region as all the immigrants you rail against..


In fact literally the only thing you know about them is they are white, farmers and having black people take their stuff..

Barring some racist ideology, how are they different from an Afghan farmer fleeing the taliban????


They aren’t..

There is no telling what level of ptsd they would be bringing..


It makes it obvious that the white part is all that matters to the people who want these, but don’t want any farmers fleeing terrorists from browner regions..



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 01:45 PM
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a reply to: AMPTAH

In these situations we only have 2 options imho..


A) invade and take over. That becomes american property..

B) stay the hell out of it..

If we go in and bust some noses then leave. We aren’t actually accomplishing anything ..

The worst guys almost always rise to the top. Because they are willing to go farther than their opponents.


Sure if the warlord makes makes a decent inferstructure. a stable nation might arise...but who knows and we usually just create an Isis..



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 01:49 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Oh please don't worry for a minute that you will be inundated by white SA farmer refugees.No country is offering them asylum.Here they are trapped to be demonically,brutally slaughtered just as the thousands before them,including their babies and small children.So you can relax about that,ok? You will have refugees from all over,just not the whites ones..so be at ease.



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 02:39 PM
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originally posted by: Ursushorribilis
a reply to: CulturalResilience

Your right. I forgot white people are native to Africa. It's not like they stole, raped, and killed to live there.


Somewhere, you forgot that *all* people are native to Africa.

Go study some history, pre-history, whatever.



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