It Gets Worse: Carter Page Was An Undercover Asset For The FBI

a reply to: JinMI

According to the first republican that read it, it just unwittingly corroborates the republican memo.

Lol apparently Trump Jr and myself appear to be on the same page. We both think he's a Patsy.

Given the opportunity, he doesn't even deny it he just changes the subject. Tisk tisk Page.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Grambler

When pointed out that in fact Page never met sechin, instead of saying this shows the dossier is wrong, they say well he testified he met Dvorkivich, who is a guy under sechin, so somehow this confirms part of that dossier.

No. Dvorkivich doesn't work for Sechin. Arkady Dvorkovich was Medvedev's Deputy Prime Minister. You're thinking of Andrey Baranov, head of investor relations for Rosneft.

You seem to know a lot about what's going on.

wow...

Glad you made this thread. I was excited to write this one but am happy since you did a better job than I would have.

Because “FISA Title I” surveillance authority against a U.S. citizen is so serious (the U.S. government is essentially calling the target a spy), only a few people are authorized to even apply for such surveillance warrants. One of the four people authorized to make such a filing is the Asst. Attorney General who is head of the National Security Division of the DOJ. That person is John P Carlin.

The same John P Carlin who, together with the FBI counterintelligence unit, hired Carter Page as an FBI Under-Cover Employee, turns around and six months later accuses Page of being a Russian Spy – because the DOJ-NSD and FBI CoIntel needed to find a legal way to spy on the Trump campaign. The 2016 FISA Title 1 surveillance of former FBI employee Carter Page became that legal way. [“The Insurance Policy”]

theconservativetreehouse.com...


Its strange. I am suddenly slow to celebrate. I have been waiting for this all to go public for a while and now that its here all I want to do is sit and think about it. I want to enjoy it.

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Lol apparently Trump Jr and myself appear to be on the same page. We both think he's a Patsy.

Given the opportunity, he doesn't even deny it he just changes the subject. Tisk tisk Page.

I'm listening to Carter Page now on Fox News. Doing a live interview. He spoke a few Pleasantries with a Russian Official for 15 seconds in a hallway during a presentation. The Dossier alleges that they formed some kind of plot in those 15 seconds?

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Grambler

When pointed out that in fact Page never met sechin, instead of saying this shows the dossier is wrong, they say well he testified he met Dvorkivich, who is a guy under sechin, so somehow this confirms part of that dossier.

No. Dvorkivich doesn't work for Sechin. Arkady Dvorkovich was Medvedev's Deputy Prime Minister. You're thinking of Andrey Baranov, head of investor relations for Rosneft.

My bad. Nonetheless, he never met Sechin,

He did meet baranov in a bar watching a football game though.

But you are right, this was mor than 10 seconds.

However, the dossier claims he met sechin, which never happened.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Grambler

When pointed out that in fact Page never met sechin, instead of saying this shows the dossier is wrong, they say well he testified he met Dvorkivich, who is a guy under sechin, so somehow this confirms part of that dossier.

No. Dvorkivich doesn't work for Sechin. Arkady Dvorkovich was Medvedev's Deputy Prime Minister. You're thinking of Andrey Baranov, head of investor relations for Rosneft.

Any restaurants in Moscow that you'd recommend?

originally posted by: toysforadults
if you become a criminal, become an FBI agent and then you can cover up your crimes and collect a pension

If you're a really good criminal, then the FBI might give you a job, to help them catch other good criminals.

Isn't that how the FBI works?

All those super hackers who broke into various government installations now work for the FBI.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Lol apparently Trump Jr and myself appear to be on the same page. We both think he's a Patsy.

Given the opportunity, he doesn't even deny it he just changes the subject. Tisk tisk Page.

I'm listening to Carter Page now on Fox News. Doing a live interview. He spoke a few Pleasantries with a Russian Official for 15 seconds in a hallway during a presentation. The Dossier alleges that they formed some kind of plot in those 15 seconds?

He seems tense and uncomfortable, One really wonders why he's giving an interview. Apparently damage control likely due to info breaking in this OP. Trying to get in front of the story. Laura should really try to confront him better but I don't expect her to she is probably the safest forum for him.

a reply to: Grambler

Not only was he accused of no wrongdoing, the FBI said they believed he had no idea that the guy was a russian spy. So basically their "extensive contacts" are, at best, mccarthyism (he unwittingly talked to a russian spy).

But I don't agree that UCE and Male 1 are different people. I believe Male-1 became UCE-1.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Lol apparently Trump Jr and myself appear to be on the same page. We both think he's a Patsy.

Given the opportunity, he doesn't even deny it he just changes the subject. Tisk tisk Page.

I'm listening to Carter Page now on Fox News. Doing a live interview. He spoke a few Pleasantries with a Russian Official for 15 seconds in a hallway during a presentation. The Dossier alleges that they formed some kind of plot in those 15 seconds?

He also admitted under testimony to the house to having met a high employee of roseneft named Baranov at a bar, so I assume there would have been ample time to form a plot.

However, the dossier alleged he met sechin not baranov, and apparently Page and baranov had been friends for years.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Grambler

Not only was he accused of no wrongdoing, the FBI said they believed he had no idea that the guy was a russian spy. So basically their "extensive contacts" are, at best, mccarthyism (he unwittingly talked to a russian spy).

But I don't agree that UCE and Male 1 are different people. I believe Male-1 became UCE-1.

I believe you are wrong. I linked the FBI file, it lists male 1 who is clearly page, then lists a seperate person, CS 1 who matches up exactly with UCE 1.

originally posted by: Rosinitiate

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Lol apparently Trump Jr and myself appear to be on the same page. We both think he's a Patsy.

Given the opportunity, he doesn't even deny it he just changes the subject. Tisk tisk Page.

I'm listening to Carter Page now on Fox News. Doing a live interview. He spoke a few Pleasantries with a Russian Official for 15 seconds in a hallway during a presentation. The Dossier alleges that they formed some kind of plot in those 15 seconds?

He seems tense and uncomfortable, One really wonders why he's giving an interview. Apparently damage control likely due to info breaking in this OP. Trying to get in front of the story. Laura should really try to confront him better but I don't expect her to she is probably the safest forum for him.

I'll defer to your judgement on Carter Page. I've never heard him speak before today.

Important thing is a Special Counsel or Federal Grand Jury to get to the bottom of all this.

a reply to: Grambler

Male-1 is in reference to a recording, correct?

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Grambler

Male-1 is in reference to a recording, correct?

I dont think so, it is in refernce to Page, as Page admits in his transcript.

a reply to: Grambler

Mate, you should write a book about this.

kind regards,

bally

so.. if im understanding.... this right...

page worked/works for fbi busting russian agents, fbi than planted him in trump camp... fbi wanted warrant to spy, used page as justification for a title 1 warrant to spy on trump?

that is a whole lot of corruption

a reply to: Dfairlite

Expletive, expletive, expletive!

How are they going to defend this one? Because of course they will try.

Ya'll, if nothing comes of this (charges, trials and convictions of A LOT of folks), then our country is done. If this slides, there is no hope.

Thanks DFair and Grambler for this info!

a reply to: carewemust

Bro, this is Treason.