The Evidence Inside The “House Intel Committee Four Page FISA Memo”…

a reply to: burntheships

WHY DONT WE CHECK THE ACTUAL WARRANT???

Rather than some memo from a trump lacky saying what he thinks about the warrant...

a reply to: JoshuaCox

I read your thread, ok?

The warrant is TOP SECRET.
It can't "just be released".

There would be procedures to follow.

Since Trump was caught up in the surveillance, I am
pretty sure the Democrats would scream obstruction!

a reply to: burntheships

A) No it is not...

I’m pretty sure top secret is a real military designation ..

This just isn’t public.

B) nothing is classified from the president and he has the authority to declassify ANYTHING, period.

C) even a regular citizens have a right of disclosure.. Trump had a right to any evidence against him..

That is 101

a reply to: JoshuaCox
Your entitled to your opinion.

Currently, The Memo is only viewable in a SCIF
due to the classification level.

TOP SECRET is not limited to "military".

This Meme is all for show and not substance. If they do release it we will have no access to the classified reports its based on so who knows what serial liar Nunes falsified.

Also if it was such a bombshell why are they not going to the DOJ right now and making arrests or getting the president to remove people?

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Still pounding this deflection are you?

We're not in "Kansas" anymore Toto.

They might NOT release certain evidence because of new pending Justice Department prosecutions.

Wake up.

Reality is in front of all of us.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

Apparently, it's something a group of congressmen believe we're better off not knowing about.

It reveals sources and methods.

But, we know essentially what is in the memo, because George Bush Jr. invasion of Iraq revealed to the whole world the key operating principle and function of intelligence, that

"intelligence is constructed to fit the policy."

The rest is details.

a reply to: Perfectenemy

Starting to look like the SOTU may coincide with revealing the memo and the OIG report. Popcorn time!

a reply to: xuenchen

BWAHAHAHA..

I take nothing you say seriously.

I just debunk your points so your able to lie less to others.

a reply to: burntheships

It is still a speacial designation not applied to warrants.

Warrants are public record the second any charges are filed.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: burntheships

It is still a speacial designation not applied to warrants.

Warrants are public record the second any charges are filed.

Incorrect. FISA warrants are indeed classified. In most cases for 25 years.
source
Also, as far as I know, no charges have been filed against President Trump in this case so even if this warrant were not classified it would still not be public record.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I agree 100%.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: burntheships

It is still a speacial designation not applied to warrants.

Warrants are public record the second any charges are filed.

Your conflating a Law Enforcement warrant with a FISA warrant.

FISA is a "secret" court.

Not the same at all.

The current discussion amongst Republican Congressmen is, TO REDACT...or NOT REDACT.

But there is disagreement within the Republican conference about not redacting the document first, with some Republicans expressing concerns about releasing sensitive intelligence information.

"It couldn't be released as it is for several reasons," said Rep. Pete King, a New York Republican on the Intelligence Committee. "One, there's sources and methods in there. Secondly, part of it could interfere with an investigation. But I think parts of it could be redacted and released."

Rep. Conaway had a different view, however, saying the underlying intelligence that the memo was based on could not be released, but he was comfortable with publicizing the classified information Nunes cited. He didn't agree with King that sources and methods would be revealed.

"There's classified information in there, but there's not sources in methods. So I think it needs to be released," Conaway said.

Source: The Anti-America/Anti-Trump TV Network.

WHO will make the final decision on how much, if any, black ink should cover words in the Memo Document?

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: burntheships

A) No it is not...

I’m pretty sure top secret is a real military designation ..

This just isn’t public.

B) nothing is classified from the president and he has the authority to declassify ANYTHING, period.

C) even a regular citizens have a right of disclosure.. Trump had a right to any evidence against him..

That is 101

You only get to see the evidence stacked against you after you're charged with a crime, not during the investigation, chief. I'm also sure if Trump unilaterally declassified information regarding the investigation into him and his associates, the useful idiots would be up in arms about "obstruction of justice in an ongoing investigation", so there are more angles to this playing out.

This ATS Thread www.abovetopsecret.com... contains some of the evidence supporting the 4-Page Memo Document.

a reply to: xuenchen

All this to discredit a dossier that according to you guys is fake?

Really?
Why bother?


Meanwhile the beat goes on. La de la de dee. La de la de daa.

a reply to: xuenchen

No it's still wishful thinking.

a reply to: DBCowboy

This is the distraction. The issue it's distracting from is Muellers investigation.
I expect the efforts to redouble the closer Mueller gets. Wait until Kushner gets indicted then you'll really see the theatrics.