My missing/Abduction story

originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: KTemplar

so its not drugs
drugs either pick stuff from your imagination or memory
they cant just implant new knowledge

No drugs alter your chemistry.

Your imagination can create something new with or without drugs.

Substances that are mind altering are known to help or increase our imagination abilities.


Imagination and memory are 2 different functions/processes the mind has.



Recalling memories sometimes uses our imagination to fill the blanks that we don't even perceive as blanks because we fill them in

a reply to: JackHill


I wonder how though?

a reply to: InhaleExhale


I did not use drugs. I was about 12, and a good girl. I actually wanted to be a priest when I was younger. I was not to happy to learn woman couldn’t be priests’.

a reply to: KTemplar

I did not use drugs.

I never said you do or did.



I was going reply to you but its no point even asking anything when you have made your mind up but to do so would require knowledge which you don't have as you say you don't know what it was and are looking for ways to solidify your conclusion that it cannot be humans.


The UFO phenomena and alien abduction phenomena was created after WW2 to disguise nefarious unethical human experimentation that was still required to gain knowledge about the human psyche and human physiology that could not be done anywhere in the open.

When you say this and the way you say it, a statement all on it sown is very telling for me and for what I have come across.

I was not abducted by humans.

This is word for word what so many others have said in a very similar fashion as a separate statement from others things said or posted.

Could this suggest that if it is humans doing sick things to further a knowledge base on how to pull human's strings and play us like puppets that its a programmed response by those that have been abducted by groups that do these things and are not alien in any form but very much human?

Numerous substances available to us that can make us extremely susceptible to anothers will and commands and many other substances available to us that can give the individual the impression that they are communicating with beings from not of this earth.


Thanks for sharing and I hope one day you can find some resolve and answers that will explain your experience.

a reply to: InhaleExhale


Sorry if I misunderstood.

I have heard stories of the human experimentation, but if that were true, why would a government agency use so many resources, time and money and risk getting caught in the outdoors, when I’m sure these kind of experiments could have been done in labs/hospitals with victims who might not be reported missing?

a reply to: KTemplar

why would a government agency use so many resources, time and money and risk getting caught in the outdoors, when I’m sure these kind of experiments could have been done in labs/hospitals with victims who might not be reported missing?

How much time, money and resources are used?

Too many abductions where the abductee has said the same thing as you that it cannot be humans have been either in remote areas or like you close to civilization but on the edge of remote.

If persons are selected which many believe they are but think its an alien program and its aliens using the kids of people abducted in the past to see how .....whatever you want.. be it genetic tampering or what not has been passed on to off spring, so if they are selected or on some sort of list the its they would most likely already be monitored.

IN the past more human resources would have been required, hence the men in black of the early days but not so much in recent times.


as technology moved forward so does monitoring techniques, less people involved over a long period of time.

Just set up required and monitoring and maintenance when required.

When its time to take the person then again, only a small number of people required.

For children even less personnel required to abduct if there is enough knowledge.

For me personally I think it dangerous thinking (it traps you or your mind in a box) to conclude something cannot be human when all we have is evidence of human abductions and a history of many 1000s of years to show that we do abduct and treat each other like less than human and can be considered as monsters due to our actions.

There are too many scenarios that one can come up with to show how humans can pull something like this off and make the victims believe without a doubt it was an alien experience.


I think what was suggested by another poster is that you could have been drugged and abducted not that you were on drugs.

This is a scenario that could fit many cases and depending on what substance is used, the victim can have a very alien experience especially if the victims mind is being guided by the abductor.

Personally I wouldn't go into any regression/hypnosis with any mention of anything alien but simply trauma you suffered in the past that you are looking for answers.

If you know a good GP and want to go the route of hypnosis then get advice from a GP that can maybe refer to you a psychologist that can perform the hypnosis.

Most likely the GP's advice would be the same as I am saying here, don't mention or try indicating anything extra terrestrial just trauma of going missing as a child.

Its way to easy under hypnosis to create false memories, actually going back to where I suggested drugs could be used to put a person in a trance like state where they are susceptible to any command, hypnosis could also be a way of explaining why you believe its alien and not human.

Too much evidence that if a person is susceptible to hypnosis that one under can do whatever they are told.

a reply to: InhaleExhale

its impossible to turn imagination into a memory without external interference

originally posted by: KTemplar
a reply to: ConfusedBrit

I totally understand blocking it out.

I would eventually like to try a regression, even if I had to keep the information to myself.

Good luck with whatever route you take to find answers.

originally posted by: KTemplar
a reply to: JackHill


I wonder how though?

Well they're more advanced than us, I have read about accounts on how the aliens prepare the abduction scenario, controlling minds at distance. It's very common to hear stories where the abductee cannot understand why took certain road, or things like that.

In your case, it seems it was way more easy to abduct you both in the middle of nowhere, than coming to your houses. Sounds like an obvious strategic and logical move.

originally posted by: InhaleExhale


The UFO phenomena and alien abduction phenomena was created after WW2 to disguise nefarious unethical human experimentation that was still required to gain knowledge about the human psyche and human physiology that could not be done anywhere in the open.

There's no evidence WHATSOEVER of any of that. Not even close. You should research a bit more, way more actually.

originally posted by: KTemplar
a reply to: InhaleExhale


Sorry if I misunderstood.

I have heard stories of the human experimentation, but if that were true, why would a government agency use so many resources, time and money and risk getting caught in the outdoors, when I’m sure these kind of experiments could have been done in labs/hospitals with victims who might not be reported missing?

Because the beings doing this aren't from here. It should be obvious considering what abductees recall, starting with the physical appearance.

originally posted by: ConfusedBrit

originally posted by: KTemplar
a reply to: ConfusedBrit

I totally understand blocking it out.

I would eventually like to try a regression, even if I had to keep the information to myself.

Good luck with whatever route you take to find answers.

Thank you Confused Brit! I’m still not ready yet and even if I found out, it’s probably best left unknown to the world. Mass hysteria and all!

originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: KTemplar

why would a government agency use so many resources, time and money and risk getting caught in the outdoors, when I’m sure these kind of experiments could have been done in labs/hospitals with victims who might not be reported missing?

How much time, money and resources are used?

Too many abductions where the abductee has said the same thing as you that it cannot be humans have been either in remote areas or like you close to civilization but on the edge of remote.

If persons are selected which many believe they are but think its an alien program and its aliens using the kids of people abducted in the past to see how .....whatever you want.. be it genetic tampering or what not has been passed on to off spring, so if they are selected or on some sort of list the its they would most likely already be monitored.

IN the past more human resources would have been required, hence the men in black of the early days but not so much in recent times.


as technology moved forward so does monitoring techniques, less people involved over a long period of time.

Just set up required and monitoring and maintenance when required.

When its time to take the person then again, only a small number of people required.

For children even less personnel required to abduct if there is enough knowledge.

For me personally I think it dangerous thinking (it traps you or your mind in a box) to conclude something cannot be human when all we have is evidence of human abductions and a history of many 1000s of years to show that we do abduct and treat each other like less than human and can be considered as monsters due to our actions.

There are too many scenarios that one can come up with to show how humans can pull something like this off and make the victims believe without a doubt it was an alien experience.


I think what was suggested by another poster is that you could have been drugged and abducted not that you were on drugs.

This is a scenario that could fit many cases and depending on what substance is used, the victim can have a very alien experience especially if the victims mind is being guided by the abductor.

Personally I wouldn't go into any regression/hypnosis with any mention of anything alien but simply trauma you suffered in the past that you are looking for answers.

If you know a good GP and want to go the route of hypnosis then get advice from a GP that can maybe refer to you a psychologist that can perform the hypnosis.

Most likely the GP's advice would be the same as I am saying here, don't mention or try indicating anything extra terrestrial just trauma of going missing as a child.

Its way to easy under hypnosis to create false memories, actually going back to where I suggested drugs could be used to put a person in a trance like state where they are susceptible to any command, hypnosis could also be a way of explaining why you believe its alien and not human.

Too much evidence that if a person is susceptible to hypnosis that one under can do whatever they are told.

I appreciate your point of view. Thank you!

Just seems funny that I would see a short grey being/? With big black eyes as so many others have. That being in itself wouldn’t necessarily look scary, but those eyes and the close proximity to my face I will never forget. I was definitely shocked.

a reply to: KTemplar

KTemplar, give me the date and time of the occurrence. I would like to look into it.

Your description of the situation is very similar to something I experienced.

Thanks mate, cheers.

BTW can you describe the freaky looking robot in more detail? Also, did anything in that incident have a bright red-orange glow? (Just curious)

originally posted by: JackHill

originally posted by: InhaleExhale


The UFO phenomena and alien abduction phenomena was created after WW2 to disguise nefarious unethical human experimentation that was still required to gain knowledge about the human psyche and human physiology that could not be done anywhere in the open.

There's no evidence WHATSOEVER of any of that. Not even close. You should research a bit more, way more actually.

WOW

not even close aye.

originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: InhaleExhale

its impossible to turn imagination into a memory without external interference

You said drugs pick stuff up from either your memory or imagination but cannot put new knowledge in there.

I replied by saying that Drugs can just enhance your imagination and that your imagination can create new knowledge in your mind if that thing imagined matched reality be it fictional or non fictional.

You can have memories of things you imagine, not sure what you are talking about.

originally posted by: Archivalist
a reply to: KTemplar

KTemplar, give me the date and time of the occurrence. I would like to look into it.

Your description of the situation is very similar to something I experienced.

Thanks mate, cheers.

BTW can you describe the freaky looking robot in more detail? Also, did anything in that incident have a bright red-orange glow? (Just curious)

Archivalist, I sent you a pm with info. Thank you!

originally posted by: KTemplar

originally posted by: Archivalist
a reply to: KTemplar

KTemplar, give me the date and time of the occurrence. I would like to look into it.

Your description of the situation is very similar to something I experienced.

Thanks mate, cheers.

BTW can you describe the freaky looking robot in more detail? Also, did anything in that incident have a bright red-orange glow? (Just curious)

Had to update as I forgot to respond about freaky flying macine. The freaky looking flying machines’ head was spinning as it flew towards us, I can only remember the smile (sinister),and red, purple. I felt like it tried to pass itself off as humorous but failed terribly.

The only other red thing, I don’t actually remember, but when Becky asked me about it years later I blurted our in anger, “I don’t know but I don’t like red eyes”.





Archivalist, I sent you a pm with more info. Thank you!

a reply to: Archivalist


Archivalist, I would love to know about your experience, you can pm if you’d like, or have you posted it?

I'd just like to add how impressed I am with the responses to this thread which have mainly been calm, understanding and questioning in a healthy manner. A credit to ATS.



My reason for saying this is that another current thread about a personal experience was tantamount to the Spanish Inquisition in how roughly the OP was treated (even if an account seems suspect, a degree of diplomacy is needed until further info is gleaned IMO), but that thread has thankfully calmed down since.