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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
originally posted by: RazorV66
originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: nOraKat
There's another name for Universal Income, it's called welfare.
I think it would be more acceptable if people are required to community service as a form of contributing to society.
Most people that are working don't get welfare, maybe some do.
OP says they will give it out regardless of income and status.
It could stimulate the economy for people to have a little extra spending cash.
It doesn't quite make sense to be given this if you have a good income.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
Usually these large scale Universal Income theories replace all or most social safety net programs. So yes, you'll receive the Universal Income during good times; but it's also the only thing you'll receive during bad times. No food stamps, no public housing, no healthcare for the poor, no free or reduced cost lunches for poor kids at school, no govt subsidized homeless or abuse shelters, etc. Some proposals go even further and get rid of pensions, Social Security-type programs, and more.
originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
Usually these large scale Universal Income theories replace all or most social safety net programs. So yes, you'll receive the Universal Income during good times; but it's also the only thing you'll receive during bad times. No food stamps, no public housing, no healthcare for the poor, no free or reduced cost lunches for poor kids at school, no govt subsidized homeless or abuse shelters, etc. Some proposals go even further and get rid of pensions, Social Security-type programs, and more.
The real "bad times" comes when the international bankers determine that a country is spending too much money on the people and not enough on the interest of the national debt. Then comes the time for the Greek Haircut. Bankers will dictate how much will be spent on social programs and they will take national hard assets to cover the debt.
I get these offers all the time in the mail. "Hey, you seem like a good guy. How about we loan you up to $50,000? You're pre-qualified." You have to look deep into the fine print to see the 30% interest rate. It's a nice scam if you can get away with it.
originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
a reply to: enlightenedservant
I thought I was reinforcing your point.
These Universal Income schemes depend on a nation borrowing money they don't have from banks that don't have it at interest. The borrowed money plus the interest can never be paid back with the printed money, so the banks will collect national and private hard assets and force the governments to reduce social programs. Just as they did in Greece.
The government may have good intentions trying to provide for the welfare of the people, but, ultimately, the decision will be taken from them. The bankers will determine how much will be provided to the people, and how much will be taken from them.
Good times when elected officials determine what's best for the people that elected them. Bad times when the banks want their money.
And socialism ! Where is the government going to get the funds to do this? From all of their billionaire 1%ers? It's completely unsustainable in any way shape or form.
originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: nOraKat
There's another name for Universal Income, it's called welfare.
I think it would be more acceptable if people are required to do community service to get Universal Income as a form of contributing to society.
originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
And socialism ! Where is the government going to get the funds to do this? From all of their billionaire 1%ers? It's completely unsustainable in any way shape or form.
originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: nOraKat
There's another name for Universal Income, it's called welfare.
I think it would be more acceptable if people are required to do community service to get Universal Income as a form of contributing to society.
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Soloprotocol
In the us I think it's over 2 trillion if you factor the irs
originally posted by: Flanker86
The Skripal's poisoning was orchestrated by MI6 to prevent Scotland's independence and to revert Brexit.
The idea was to use the external threat to scaremonger the Scots into accepting the Windsor as legitimate rulers.