Authority: everyone on the ground is dead, -Civilian EMT no their Not!!

So I've just watched a graphic video on the ground (I'm not allowed post it to graphic) but you see a guy running around trying to help ppl someone off to the side saying everyone on the ground is dead to which he responds no they're not and proceed s to count & point out the injured and alive at which point to lights go out
This vid is on glp under graphic if you want to watch
Why was the other guy so quick to claim their all dead it's terrible he was so no chalant about it

a reply to: TheJesuit

Even the well trained, when faced with this type of carnage, make mistakes.

I'll not be the one to judge EMT's going into a situation under fire and without lights (as the videotographer said), who make wrong decisions.

It could also be Triage training. You're taught the near dead will die anyway - so you treat the ones you can save.

Hard to say we were not there, but praise to the ones who were.

I saw the video and posted about it in the main thread.. it's on l iveleak.

I've watched alot of Liveleak.. but that video is pretty horrifying.

Is there a rule against posting links to graphic vids here?

Serious question.

I.wouldnt post the actual vid.. but just a link to it.

The guy was trying to help people... people need to see it.. but.. it's pretty horrifying

a reply to: TheJesuit

That is the exact same thing I was asking myself.How the hell does this guy know everyone on the ground is deceased?
Did he get his hands dirty like the guy in the video, going around and checking pulses?
No he just says there all dead.
That rattled me when I watched it

Kinda neat how some people in the video are just walking along like nothing happened.

a reply to: xuenchen

Shock?

The ending of that video is downright bizzare... at first it was just horrifying and heartbreaking...

But the end was so strange..

The guy basically came up to him and was like "nothing to see here"

It was bizzare...

People still alive dying? What? What people? Everyone here is already dead.


That's some twilight zone stuff right there.

Did anyone confirm if it's against the rules to post a link?

Sad isn't it? Here's some of the dialog from the hospital which is similar to what I read earlier from from the shooting scene(can't find it right now).
Prioritizing the victims:

People who have life-threatening injuries and need immediate attention, such as those with a collapsed lung, are tagged red and are brought in for treatment right away.

Those with severe, but less life-threatening injuries are ranked a tier lower with a yellow tag. Unfortunately, doctors must also decide when a patient cannot be saved.

"Say there's a person with a head injury who's barely breathing. We try to open their airways but if there's not much chance of saving them we have to move on," Glatter said.

CBS News medical contributor Dr. David Agus explains that doctors must make these decisions quickly, sometimes within seconds, in order to save as many people as possible.

"It's a horrible decision to have to make, but you need to start to say, where can I use the men and women power I have to save people," he said.

"It's a very difficult thing because with some people you're going to have to say these are people who we are not going to be able to save even though if the emergency room was empty they would be able to save them."

Source

a reply to: Lucidparadox

I don't think so as I clicked a link to view the dead perp and that was graphic. Anyone got a link?

originally posted by: xuenchen
Kinda neat how some people in the video are just walking along like nothing happened.

They've just been through a traumatic event.

But I'm sure random internet posters know what's going on in their minds better than they do.

I wonder how many of the "its so odd how people were acting " posters here have actually been in a chaotic, traumatic,combat like scenario similar to this and are thus justified in posting about it vs them just talking out of their ....

It's easy to question how someone in that scenario would act when you aren't the one on site dealing with the emergent scenario.

a reply to: opethPA

I have and I am a survivor. You just don't know how you will act. Each of us acts differently. On top of that, do not move the people, moving could cause further shock and even death, let the EMTs do such.

These people trying to help and such as the man who stole the car to transport people are heros. Well, minus action by the video guy-wanted to point that out.

I posted it in the main thread.. because it shows an act of heroism.

No mods said I couldn't so I assume it's fair. ATS'ers can click or not click

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a reply to: DontTreadOnMe



Thank You for clarifying.

I posted it in the other thread unsure if it crossed the line or norlt (I guess it did)

A thread like this discussing it is still allowed right?

a reply to: TheJesuit

Poor crisis actor plant obviously.

a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

Thank you. That dude did sho some serious calm. Also why wouldn't that place be lit up like the fourth of july if the shooting was over

Seems suspect.

But thats just my opinion