Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

a reply to: Jonjonj

I think most of us are open to all sorts of theories. The arms dealer just doesn't make sense. In what world does an arms dealer sell said arms to shady people fully stocked ready for action right that moment especially in that quantity.

a reply to: RadioRobert

LMFAO...you know...I just asked myself the same damn question!! I was thinking, why am I even worried about this???

a reply to: mzinga

I'm even open to him being a gun runner or some other type of smuggler. But this "gun deal gone bad" scenario is garbage based on what little we do actually know.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Jonjonj

Darling, most of the people you're accusing of being shills have been on this site longer than you. Hell, I'll hit 10 years in January. If you think I'm being aggressively skeptical now you should have seen me in the run up to 2012. Just because people don't accept alternative theories as readily as you do doesn't make them agents for some nefarious organization.

You should probably step back...sweetheart???

Your time served means nothing more than your time served.

I have observed clear behaviour, it is what it is.

I never accused anybody of being a shill. I rather meant the little boys club of "deny everythanggg" that is here.

Thanks for the radar hit.

Un beso

a reply to: Xcalibur254

I don't know. These are the two I kept seeing in posts. They seem to do the job unless the one you saw is radically different.

The two I reported, 1 has multi rooms (suites) shown, 1 is a single suite shown.

Maybe you'll run across the one you are referring to.

originally posted by: RadioRobert
a reply to: Dragoon01

I mean, I guess you can argue the 3D diagram drafted up quickly by a media source as a simple visual aide isn't precise enough for you, but it seems to do its job fairly well to me. I'm not sure why this is an argument *shrug* The alignment of the 3D graphic isn't precise enough doesn't really have anything to do with the door to the adjoinjng suite or the one to the hallway. Why are we discussing this?

Why was 32-134 door closed? It contains a shooting window.
Why was it breached by police? Locked? That would make it easy for 60+ years old man to work both windows?
Why does the Aussie say he stayed in 32-134? Did the shooter take over his room and setup security cameras though 32-134?
MSM media claims he bought two rooms so why the mystery with room 32-134?

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: RadioRobert

LMFAO...you know...I just asked myself the same damn question!! I was thinking, why am I even worried about this???

haha. You are the one who started the recent talk because of the hall picture.

originally posted by: mzinga
a reply to: Jonjonj

I think most of us are open to all sorts of theories. The arms dealer just doesn't make sense. In what world does an arms dealer sell said arms to shady people fully stocked ready for action right that moment especially in that quantity.

His supposed buyer may have asked for fully loaded clips etc.... but unknown to Paddock, his buyer set him up as a patsy.

a reply to: imitator

Like selling a fully armed nuke? Does that make sense?

Found it! On page 60. Not an official Mandalay Bay floor plan but also not the 3d model.

a reply to: antibren

Those are great questions. Why aren't we trying to noodle solutions to them instead of arguing over how accurately a graphics guy for a newspaper or magazine drew up a quick illustration meant as a visual aide?

originally posted by: roadgravel

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: RadioRobert

LMFAO...you know...I just asked myself the same damn question!! I was thinking, why am I even worried about this???

haha. You are the one who started the recent talk because of the hall picture.

And theories thwarted

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
I think I'm going to go start drinking.

I 2nd that.

originally posted by: RadioRobert
a reply to: antibren

Those are great questions. Why aren't we trying to noodle solutions to them instead of arguing over how accurately a graphics guy for a newspaper or magazine drew up a quick illustration meant as a visual aide?

I have not made ANY of those mentioned arguments. I was just trying to enlighten our friend clay... We wasted a lot of bandwidth getting him to look at the facts before we could ask related questions on why the info is strange

originally posted by: mzinga
a reply to: imitator

Like selling a fully armed nuke? Does that make sense?

Nothing makes sense yet... I bet lots of people would buy an armed nuke, just ask around.

The person lying on the floor is not him, like duh people, not even the same facial features. especially his LIPS.

a reply to: imitator

Right, but what idiot would sell the fully armed nuke?

Allow me to circle back to the only point I was really trying to make about the doors and orientation. I hope they're relevant, but with my mush-mind right now, and thread-fixation, they might just be random nonsense. Here goes...

1. Stairwell doors are steel and open 'into' the stairwell. They cannot swing 'out' into the hallway.

2. Interior double doors without a vertical post ('style') separating them cannot be called "fire doors".

3. Interior double doors cannot be locked in the direction of their swing. They can always be pulled, or pushed, open in the direction of their swing (unless they have magnetic locks which no doors pictured so far have had).

That was really all.

ETA...Oh, and most hotel doors, besides the stairwell doors, are wood in some form.

Are you guys all illegal arms dealers? How do you know that guns and ammo aren't sold together? Pretty sure they are...

a reply to: tiredoflooking

Who's saying they aren't? But the ammo is going to be much easier to transport in boxes as opposed to pre-loaded in magazines.