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Should someone be arrested for their beliefs?

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posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 09:08 AM
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There's a few threads popping up with the same foundation, but regarding different subjects. The foundation of those topics is the concept of arresting someone due to their beliefs.

Personally, it sounds like a very 'nazi' Way of running things.

It's making me wonder how many people feel that someone should be arrested or charged for holding a belief or opinion?

Be it:

-accepting or denying climate change
- believing or disbelieving in gods
- being politically left or right

So on and so forth. Is there anyone here that feels this is justified?



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 09:18 AM
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You should be arrested for your actions, not for your beliefs.



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 09:25 AM
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originally posted by: Jefferton
You should be arrested for your actions, not for your beliefs.


100 percent agree.

This includes disgusting beliefs like supremacists.

I may be disgusted by these beliefs, but they should not be criminallized.



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: Ghost147


If you believe Bud Light is beer you should not only be arrested but you should be water boarded after. With Bud Light of course.



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: Ghost147

I think I almost draw a line at pedophilia. I would prefer those who have that mindset to be arrested but with some deep thought, only their actions matter. They are dangerous people that if possible deserve a watchful eye but without a criminal action, I can't honestly call for their arrest.



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 09:27 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Jefferton
You should be arrested for your actions, not for your beliefs.


100 percent agree.

This includes disgusting beliefs like supremacists.

I may be disgusted by these beliefs, but they should not be criminallized.

Exactly. You can be a scumbag, the worst kind of scumbag, but unless you actually commit a real crime, you should be free to scumbag it all you want.



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 09:27 AM
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Incarceration is clearly a system which works. Criminals go in as low level jack boys and come out like Al Capone. Clearly, there is nothing wrong with the prison-industrial complex. Works like a charm and keeps them coming back for three hots and a cot. The over developed sperm samples that intend to tell me what to think or do not pass go can kiss off. How would you even enforce this? What a joke.



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 09:28 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Ghost147


If you believe Bud Light is beer you should not only be arrested but you should be water boarded after. With Bud Light of course.


I'm pretty sure every one of your posts relates to alcohol in some way


Arrest him!!!



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 09:29 AM
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a reply to: Ghost147


Ummm...you should neither be arrested...nor condemned...

Rather...you should be quietly escorted to the nearest reprogramming facility...so that your non conformist thoughts can be summarily corrected...

With or without your permission...of course...





YouSir



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 09:32 AM
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originally posted by: Ghost147
I'm pretty sure every one of your posts relates to alcohol in some way


Arrest him!!!


Or murder.

Send the coppers, I'll just use the Masonic High Sign on them and then kick back with a nice Allagash White.



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 09:32 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Ghost147


If you believe Bud Light is beer you should not only be arrested but you should be water boarded after. With Bud Light of course.


Alright, I kind of like alcoholic sparkling water sometimes.

Coors light on a hot day is crucial. But I mean scorching day.

Coors 90° +

Craft 40° ÷

Red wine and liquor anything below 40°.

Shut up if you disagree, you should be in jail.



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
Alright, I kind of like alcoholic sparkling water sometimes.


Try a Brooklyn Brewery American Lager. Super crisp and refreshing on a hot day and much better than the piss water turned out by the AB-InBev/SAB Miller hyper conglomerate of beer mediocrity.



edit on 15-9-2017 by AugustusMasonicus because: networkdude has no beer



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 09:38 AM
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a reply to: Ghost147

IF those beliefs are harmful to other's, not self defensive but actually directly harmful to other's then emphatically yes.
A good example would be Human Sacrifice cult's such as the offering of the beating human heart to the sun God and Head Hunting tribes and tribal cannibal's whom are all believers in what they do, they should of course be arrested OR shot on sight.



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: Jefferton

It seems the line between belief and action has become blurred though, especially when it comes to verbally expressing your beliefs or writing about them in a public context.

Should a white man who believes black people are intellectually inferior be jailed for expressing his belief?

Should a black man who believes white people are the result of a genetic mutation be jailed for expressing his belief?

Should a German who disbelieves the OS of the Holocaust be jailed for expressing his opinion on the topic?



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 09:41 AM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

Don't you mean that the HARM caused by those beliefs should be punishable by law (and it is) but merely having the beliefs is not punishable by law.

For example: You can believe that sacrificing a human to the Sun God will ensure good crops but if you do nothing to act on those beliefs, you have committed no crime.

If you do act on those beliefs, you would be charged with murder, not the crime of merely having a belief?



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 09:43 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I hear ya.

Hefeweizen (the old style, not the new sweet blue moon type BS) with a very small lemon is great when it's hot. There's one with lemon grass that's killer. Ballast Point Longfin lager is really good too, but pricey.

That being said, if I'm golfing, I'll take a coors haha.

Let's get these opinions out now before it's illegal.



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 09:43 AM
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a reply to: Ghost147

Yes - and it's been this way since Caesar. In modern times, western and allied governments, at the time (1945), were unanimous in their decision to arrest and try Nazis for their beliefs and subsequent actions. Nazism was subsequently outlawed in practice and demonized to this day.

Refer Nuremberg trials.

So yes, when deemed appropriate, government will arrest or kill folks for their beliefs.

Refer David Koresh.

Plenty more examples in our collective memory banks.



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 09:47 AM
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originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: Ghost147

IF those beliefs are harmful to other's, not self defensive but actually directly harmful to other's then emphatically yes.
A good example would be Human Sacrifice cult's such as the offering of the beating human heart to the sun God and Head Hunting tribes and tribal cannibal's whom are all believers in what they do, they should of course be arrested OR shot on sight.


Yes but that extends beyond belief and into action, does it not?



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 09:48 AM
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How could you all Nazi this coming?

I digress.

Canada needs to chill out of policing thoughts and opinions, how could anyone agree with this and NOT expect it to be abused?

History books; in every chapter -if you find one of the older, outlawed texts- you would see that every time this happened in history, the people ended up screwed.



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 09:53 AM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
Hefeweizen (the old style, not the new sweet blue moon type BS) with a very small lemon is great when it's hot. There's one with lemon grass that's killer.


That sounds tasty.


Ballast Point Longfin lager is really good too, but pricey.


I stopped drinking their beer, they are now owned by AB/InBev.


That being said, if I'm golfing, I'll take a coors haha.

Let's get these opinions out now before it's illegal.


In my country you'd be golfing at Club Gitmo. Watch out for the water hazard.



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