a reply to: DanDanDat
You know what actual comic fans hate?
The fluidity with which characters change, and the pace too. An example:
Spider-Man. If you ever read the serious comics, not the kiddified nonsense, but the collectors stuff, during the 90s and the noughties, you will
note that things were in flux constantly. Spider-Man was Peter Parker, then it was Ben Reilly, then it was Peter Parker again. People hated that,
despite the fact that Ben Reilly was a great character, really interesting and all that. More recently, Peter Parker and Mary Jane are no longer
married, because the wall crawler did a deal with the Marvel Universes equivalent of Satan for some reason.
And yet, the rules as pertaining to Spider-Man are that Spider-Man's true identity is Peter Parker, no one else, ever, for all time, and that he will
always be married to and in love with Mary Jane. People do not want reboots, massive paradigm shifts, and the destruction of the basis of their heros.
Things must be THE SAME! The enemies may change, the method of dealing with them shift, but the fundamental underpinnings of their character, their
relationships, must never shift one bit. The reason? People want familiar heroes, with familiar lives, where they can pick up an issue five years
later and find that the only thing which surprises them is who the next enemy is, or what their dastardly scheme might be this time. They do not want
to pick up an issue of Spider-Man where his wife and lover is no longer his wife and lover, or where he is no longer Peter Parker at all, but one of a
number now, of alternatives to Peter Parker.
Another example, is Captain America.
I have news for Marvel... Captain America being anything other than a destroyer of fascists and a breaker of Nazi balls, is a heresy, and the people
who thought his Hydra conversion up need to be shot in the balls till they die from it.
In the same way, when I set up to watch Doctor Strange (although I loved that movie in general), I was distinctly perturbed by some of the casting
choices, thrown if you will, by them. In short, comic book movies must be cast perfectly, with no surprises, gender changes, nationality changes, or
immersion killing differences in appearance from the character they are playing. For example, Doc Strange looks the part as played by Benedict
Cumberbatch, because he has the face for it and the wardrobe people nailed the living heck out of it with his costume. Tilda Swinton however? Not so
much. Don't get me wrong, theres nothing wrong with her performance, apart from the fact that she is the one delivering it, and not someone more
appropriate and similar to the individual referred to from the actual comic book.
Lets use another Marvel related example, but this time of someone who was quite literally born to play a role they were cast in. Wolverine... Hugh
Jackman is a fantastic actor, regardless of his appearance, but his appearance, the jaw shape, ratio of jaw to nostril, nostril to eyebrow, every
single characteristic he has facially, and many of his other measurements (aside perhaps, from height, because as those in the know are aware,
Wolverine is famously smaller than many other X-Men, with a running joke being that he is in the "small but angry" category), make him the absolutely
perfect fit for the role of Wolverine, one which he has faithfully and brilliantly portrayed, even when having to deal with some awful scripts, and
even a production house that failed to understand the character well enough to shoot a movie with an appropriate age rating (FYI-If Wolverine is the
lead character, then your movie cannot be rated twelve at all, and probably should think about leaving 15 out too, heading straight for eighteen
instead, because Wolverine does not play with My Little Pony in his spare time. He guts things. Its brutal, not appropriate for the kids).
Even with some of the most trying lack of support from scripting and production, even when the directors brain was on leave while production was
underway, Jackman did a great job, and looked the part doing it. His performances were amazing in their own right, but the experience of watching him
deliver them was all the more intense, because the immersion, the suspension of disbelief necessary to accept, for the duration of the movie, that
Wolverine is a real guy, because there he is in flesh and blood, leaping claws first into that chest cavity, was SPECTACULAR! There was barely a thing
in any of his scenes, which made me even double take back into reality, precisely because he was perfectly cast.
Casting is next door to everything. Getting the right actors, to play the right roles, is CRUCIAL, and in the case of comic book movies, absolutely
paramount to an even greater degree. Comic books are a visual art form, absorbed through the eye. You want to impress the comic book fans, then give
them the same immersion they get from the fantasy world in their comic books, but on screen! There is no NEED to change things up, to alter things, to
re-write storylines much loved and much respected by the fans. Its literally only a matter of copying and pasting the damned scripts, dialogues, and
getting the casting right. Making comic book movies SHOULD be easy, and its a damned sight easier than some producers, casting directors and directors
in general, have made it look. The ease of making a movie which draws the crowds and wows the die hards, comes of casting it perfectly before anything
the hell else happens, and changing next door to nothing about the characters themselves, which means casting according to the law laid down in
decades of comic book history, not pissing in the God damned punch.
If its in ink, its the damned law already, and these movie people need to learn that they are not beholden only to their will, but to the law written
down already by personages far more talented than they will ever be, more often than not, decades before these jumped up directors and douchebag
producers were ever born.
edit on 29-8-2017 by TrueBrit because: (no reason given)