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originally posted by: Tinystarlight
Revelation shows us that the demons will gather all the kings of the earth to attack Jehovah's people, just as Gog of Magog (the chief of the coalition) and all the nations with him come out to attack Jehovah's servants.
It appears that immediately following the battle of Armageddon, there will be such a massacre of humans that it will take a very long time to finish burying the dead. In fact in chapter 39 of Ezekiel it seems that there are instructions on how Jehovah's people will have to deal with the aftermath of that final battle:
Not only is it a righteous war on God's part, it is also loving for him to protect his peaceful and harmless people, who have no weapons or arms to fight for themselves. They are like sheep in the eyes of the nation ready for the plundering.
originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: JoshuaCox
Because I believe the unveiled presence of God in power would be enough to disable all human power to act, making any physical fighting unnecessary.
It is not a contest between human armies, but God's power confronting human power, and God's power would overcome instantly just by being there. Job done.
He does not need to kill them, because the time of judgement follows on from that event. He just "takes them prisoner", as it were.
originally posted by: Tinystarlight
Good points which I had not pondered about Josiah's defeat. Too bad he went forth when he shouldn't have.
originally posted by: Tinystarlight
But he will kill them. It is quite plain, we are told they will receive the punishment of everlasting destruction:
originally posted by: DISRAELI
originally posted by: Tinystarlight
But he will kill them. It is quite plain, we are told they will receive the punishment of everlasting destruction:
All your quotations are about the judgement. That rather lends point to my comment that he would not need to kill them in the "battle" which precedes the judgement.
What I am disputing is the necessity of any physical fighting involving physical death.
originally posted by: Tinystarlight
I think what you are getting wrong is the fact that people will willingly change their hearts. God will not do that for them. He has given us freewill. Even when Jesus appears in heaven with supernatural signs and portents heralding his return people are NOT going to repent suddenly.
The foretold destruction of wicked mankind is not symbolic. God is NOT going to change their hearts. And he will NOT allow wickedness to continue past Armageddon.
Notice that prophecy in Revelation said that at that time, the unrighteous will continue in unrighteousness, and the filthy will continue in their filth. They WILL NOT repent. And thus they will have to be destroyed.
There is NOT, and nowhere does Holy Scripture and prophecy in it teach that there will be a mass conversion of everyone.
originally posted by: DISRAELI
originally posted by: Tinystarlight
I think what you are getting wrong is the fact that people will willingly change their hearts. God will not do that for them. He has given us freewill. Even when Jesus appears in heaven with supernatural signs and portents heralding his return people are NOT going to repent suddenly.
The foretold destruction of wicked mankind is not symbolic. God is NOT going to change their hearts. And he will NOT allow wickedness to continue past Armageddon.
Notice that prophecy in Revelation said that at that time, the unrighteous will continue in unrighteousness, and the filthy will continue in their filth. They WILL NOT repent. And thus they will have to be destroyed.
There is NOT, and nowhere does Holy Scripture and prophecy in it teach that there will be a mass conversion of everyone.
Here you are starting to dispute things which I have not said.
At no point have I denied that there will be judgement.
I am only questioning whether there will be a physical battle first.
originally posted by: Tinystarlight
Nevertheless prophecy says those trying to directly attack Jehovah's witnesses at that time will have their flesh rot away while standing on their feet, and their eyes rotting out of their sockets and their tongues rotting out of their mouths.