Arial footage Xian Pyramids in China

a reply to: anonentity

then where are the casing stones?

a reply to: AnonyMason

They are earth mounds. The Chinese do talk about them and have talked about them, but do not consider them "pyramids" and do not refer to them as such. The reason that they have planted trees on them is to hold them together, as earthen mounds degrade over time. It is not to hide them, it is to preserve them.

The reason that they are not excavated is because, unlike a pyramid, there is no way to do so without destroying them.

The greatest of these mounds is nowhere near a thousand feet, but was once about 250 and now about 150.

There is no evidence, none whatsoever, that there are stone monuments beneath the earth. Much like the Egyptian pyramids, a great deal is known about how and why they were built.

But carry on. You will believe as you will.

a reply to: cachibatches

RUBBISH, the great white pyramid used to have stone casing, also ancient Chinese were expert's at using RAMMED EARTH.
If rammed earth would simply collapse then why are many sections of the great wall made solely from rammed earth still around today.

They are PYRAMIDAL so they fall into the category of Pyramid's, also the majority of them are still off limit's but there are claim's of stone faced/Clad pyramid's and even an iron pyramid.

The real problem is simply that they PREDATE the HAN especially in the region were they are mostly found and indicate a glorious civilization in the region that later became China and that the HAN can not claim as there own, the people whom built most of them including some of the greatest ones such as the great white pyramid (one side of which was later dug out and turned into a tomb for a LATER Han general) were built by a great and probably already ancient civilization while most the HAN and other tribes that are today regarded as Han of that time were nothing more than tribal primitives living in or on the borders of the south east Asian jungles.

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: cachibatches

RUBBISH, the great white pyramid used to have stone casing, also ancient Chinese were expert's at using RAMMED EARTH.
If rammed earth would simply collapse then why are many sections of the great wall made solely from rammed earth still around today.

They are PYRAMIDAL so they fall into the category of Pyramid's, also the majority of them are still off limit's but there are claim's of stone faced/Clad pyramid's and even an iron pyramid.

The real problem is simply that they PREDATE the HAN especially in the region were they are mostly found and indicate a glorious civilization in the region that later became China and that the HAN can not claim as there own, the people whom built most of them including some of the greatest ones such as the great white pyramid (one side of which was later dug out and turned into a tomb for a LATER Han general) were built by a great and probably already ancient civilization while most the HAN and other tribes that are today regarded as Han of that time were nothing more than tribal primitives living in or on the borders of the south east Asian jungles.

There is no evidence that any of these pyramids had casings stones. Much of the original great wall has collapsed, because even rammed earth degrades over time. The idea that the Han did not build these is ahistorical rubbish. They are off limits because they don't want them further degraded.

Claims are just that-claims. There is no iron pyramids.

a reply to: cachibatches

The white pyramid has four sides like any pyramid and the sides of some of these Chinese pyramid's are apparently different color's additionally the white pyramid at over 1000 feet tall according to estimate's once had a jeweled capstone until very recently in fact removed most likely by the Chinese communist party, the tree's being planted on them were also part of Mao's infamous cultural revolution were he was literally attempting to destroy China's past so that molding the mind's of the people into the communist mentality would be more easily accomplished.
It is also quite obvious that soil is NOT white even in chalk rich soil's.




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And I most definitely put it to you that planting tree's whose root's will deform and tear up those pyramid's until they really are just hill's is most definitely NOT to conserve them - they have lasted many thousand's of years without tree's and without communist party ordered peasant farmers tearing up there sides with plows which was definitely intended to destroy them, the fact is that these tree's will take only a few generations to so deform these ancient structures as to utterly destroy there outward appearance and it seems to be a continuation of cultural revolution policy as well as a crime not only against Chinese history but against human history as this site is of immense international importance far beyond what you seem to be able to concieve.

And I also put it to you that you have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about, you are the one making claim's, claim's that are patently wrong, as for the IRON pyramid however I pointed out CLAIM's and laid no evidence for that so I genuinely suggest you go and do some research before you make unqualified claim's that these are NOT pyramid's when in fact they most certainly ARE pyramid's and also at least the white pyramid WAS cased in stone or perhaps even metal of some kind.
Here is are the word's once again of that American pilot in 1945 whom witnessed it as he flow over it.

James Gaussman whom remember was a wartime pilot and a highly competent and trained observer as all pilot's have to be.
"I flew around a mountain and then we came to a valley. Directly below us was a gigantic white pyramid. It looked as if it were from a fairy tale. The pyramid was draped in shimmering white.
It could have been metal, or some other form of stone. It was white on all sides. What was most curious about it was its capstone: a large piece of precious gem-like material. I was deeply moved by the colossal size of the thing."

So once again is soil shimmering white.

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originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: anonentity

then where are the casing stones?

You may have heard of this little episode in China's recent history called the cultural revolution, millions starved and Chinese even turned to cannibalism as a means to survive because of a certain leader by the name of Mao whom wanted to erase china's long history to start afresh with his view of a new society, new morality, new tradition's and new identity based on his own personal version of communist ideology.

During this episode farmers were actually ordered to farm on the side's of these pyramid's and if any casing stone's had survived that long which given the Chinese reverence for there ancestors and fear of vengeful ghost's they probably would have then they were removed only during this period to make it easier to farm those pyramid's by exposing there core's which are essentially mostly earth or mud brick, in fact as a good measure of evidence for the existence of at least former casing slab's look at how those pyramid's have retained there shape, rain water and the element's would have rounded soil even rammed soil if it had not had some form of structural support or casing slab's to protect it.

I have trawled the web but can not find what I read several years ago about one guy whom visited one of the larger one's and he explained that near to the top some casing stones were still in place on that one.

Also if the Chinese did NOT see these as tomb's of there ancestor's then they most certainly WOULD have robbed them out, stone casing slab's would have been highly prized for road's, building's and other uses as well as being far easier to obtain than to quarry themselves as was the case with the limestone casing stolen by the Arab's in Egypt used in there mosques in Cairo.

a reply to: LABTECH767

what about the UK earth mounds? they have survived erosion

a reply to: humanoidlord

They most certainly have eroded and what you actually see is really what is left of once far more impressive work's, our country has rich grass though and that does have the effect of stabilizing soil and limiting erosion but it does still take place just slowed down by the grass.

The hill fort's also had the helping hand of man and war to there destruction then there are the far more enigmatic so called petrified hill fort's of Scotland which MAY hint at a far more advanced early bronze or even late neolithic culture which may have been destroyed by later invaders, a class uprising or cultural shift.

In an experiment using gorse and heather lined against a replica stone wall a team were able to recreate the effect of the vitrification but they had to keep pilling on gorse and heather to keep the temperature high enough and those entire hill fort's not just a section to explain a wall breach during an attack have been totally melted so there destruction still remain's a mystery if one not beyond the bound's of human ability.

The greatest enemy of ancient structures here and in the rest of the world including China is the process called robbing out were old building material's are carted off and re-used in later structure's but weather does especially in wet variable climates like the UK destroy earthen structures over time, the very size of site's such as sillbury hill has allowed them to weather much of that erosion, in the case of sillbury it is not a pyramid but a cone and perhaps a once far more steeply sides and even taller (though likely not by much cone) also despite being made of soil the existence is a testament to the skill's of it's ancient builders to have survived as long as it has.
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And another enemy of such site's that may have destroyed other such sites throughout the UK is later re-use of the site, the Norman's for example built small hill's to place there towers upon (central or keep tower usually) when they were building there mott and bailey wooden castles and also there later stone upgrades to those castles but they were definitely not averse to re-using and in the process destroying many ancient site's as well as any remnant's of roman fortification's that had survived to there time period.

a reply to: LABTECH767

there are far more compelling examples of impossible tech like baalbek

There's an interesting similarity between the Chinese Pyramids and Pyramids in South America. It seems that both Mexican Pyramids and Chinese have been found to have mercury inside:

'Ancient writings say the emperor created an entire underground kingdom and palace, complete with a ceiling mimicking the night sky, set with pearls as stars. Pits full of terracotta concubines have never been discovered, though experts predict they exist somewhere in the complex.

And Qin Shi Huang's tomb is also thought to be encircled with rivers of liquid mercury, which the ancient Chinese believed could bestow immortality'...www.livescience.com...
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'An archaeologist has discovered liquid mercury at the end of a tunnel beneath a Mexican pyramid, a finding that could suggest the existence of a king’s tomb or a ritual chamber far below one of the most ancient cities of the Americas'...
www.theguardian.com...

Did they share a similar knowledge or belief?

a reply to: BeyondMyths

There are potential link's between the Chinese or at least south east Asian's and the Meso-american's, we know for instance that the Chinese Grand Fleet, a fleet of about a thousand or more junk's including huge junk's that would have put a Spanish galleon to shame probably got there decade's before Columbus made his journey and there are claim's of stone sea anchors of the types used by the Chinese having been found down the eastern sea board of the america's.

And maybe more than once.
www.dailymail.co.uk... 00-years-ago.html

Of course let's not forget that the south american civilization's themselves had ships and that discovery may have been the other way around?.
www.strangehistory.net... aine-nicotine-and-ancient-egypt/

They both also value Jade far above Gold.