Britain: New Internet Planned, New Regulations

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Good way to backtrack when you're reminded that video recordings are a form of free speech

That wasn't my intention. Free speech and freedom to own and use a rifle are entirely unrelated. A video recording though protected wouldn't always be freedom of speech per se. Freedom of speech is there so that you can't be silenced and express your opinions. You can have an opinion about rifles and express those opinions with words, but the action of shooting a rifle isn't speech. That was a misunderstanding.

a reply to: Tulpa

I have no trust for the Tories.
Where lying is concerned they are persistent offenders.
They will abuse this undoubtedly.
Its all about dissent I reckon.
Terrorism is the go-to excuse as usual and, you know, its all for our own good. Rot.

This isn't good at all. They'll be labelling all sorts of things as extremist.

So you think this sort of new regulation is going to hurt the U.K. instead of helping?

a reply to: seasonal

what other explanation can there be?

Safety and the increasing issue with hackers. Perhaps they foresee something unknown to the public. Perhaps behind-the-scenes issues none of us know anything about. That was optimism. Perhaps ther's something sinister going on.

a reply to: Profundity

but you bought up rifles, Ok fair enough I see what you''re getting at

a reply to: Tulpa

They hate the thought of people sharing information

They hate us full stop. We're considered expendable unwashed masses, there to keep them feeding unopposed at the trough.

a reply to: Tulpa

Lets not forget the scandals of institutionalized sex offenses by those in power or with the right connections

a reply to: Profundity

If the government could be trusted to use it exclusively for the purposes of cyber-security, antiterrorism and deleting things like beheading videos and child pornography, I would be the first to applaud them for it.

It will not.

It will be used to bully the population. It will be censorship so we can't see how their policies are hurting us.
They don't want us to know about pensioners who have to choose between starving to death or freezing to death in winter.
They don't want us to know how many sick and disabled people die from starvation, neglect or suicide.
They don't want us to know the true scale of poverty even among people who are working but not earning enough to make ends meet so they are reliant on food banks.
They don't want us to know how much benefit goes unclaimed because people aren't told what they are actually entitled to from an incompetent Dept. for Work and Pensions who use criminal methods to bully people who are out of work through no fault of their own but are branded as lazy and workshy.
They don't want us to be able to share our experiences of life and get together because we are all in the same boat.
They don't want us to talk about any of the negative elements of mass immigration and the impact on the jobs market.
They don't want us to have any opportunity to come together and have a unified voice as a country.

All of these things have been made possible through the spread of internet connectivity.
It scares them that they can't control the narrative that everything is fine and under control and any problems you might have are entirely your own fault.

Of course there are things, as I said before, that need to be looked at regarding terrorism etc but they are an abusive, elitist bunch of ghouls who want a divided population under their control.
If it can be abused it will be abused and the less information we have, the easier we can be controlled. If we don't know we are being pooped on we won't know when its time to clean ourselves up.

Phew, I'll stop there cos I'm tired and need some sleep cos its late and I'm getting angry.

a reply to: Profundity

This is why i came to ATS today to see if a thread was here on this topic.
This is the worst idea ever for the average UK citizen and it will be used to shut down the voice of dissent as all totalitarian policies are used for.

It is obviously part of the incremental strategy to erode peoples rights.
What right does the Government have to to tell me what i can say if i am not threatening someone.

If your kids are raped by migrants or Muslim rape gangs you will not be allowed to speak about it,if your Government is making up total horsesh!t about WMD's to drag the country into a war only the military industrial complex benefits from then guess what you will be shut down from stating the obvious.

Anyone who is actually awake knows full well we live in a World of inversion and every time the proven sociopathic liars that call themselves politicians bring out new policies you must ask yourself Cui Bono.

Theresa May is showing her true colours here, she is obviously part of the Globalist agenda and a proven traitor to Britain in the concept of shutting down freedom of speech.

All the policies brought out since 911 in the name of the war on terror are being used to politically persecute the likes of Tommy Robinson and Britain First whether you agree with their opinions or not.

Anyone thinking this is a good idea has not thought it through or is a few bananas short of a bunch, the British Government has been proven to be one of the most untrustworthy bunch of sh!theads you could ever wish to have running the joint from peado politicians to manufacturing wars they are all bought and paid for by the dark forces of the NWO masquerading as Globalists.....resist resist resist

a reply to: Tulpa

Tulpa that last post was brilliant and a fine summary

a reply to: southbeach

This is the worst idea ever for the average UK citizen and it will be used to shut down the voice of dissent as all totalitarian policies are used for.

One thing that keeps returning to mind is that even if such a strict censorship of the internet were to happen, then there isn't a whole lot to get upset about unless 90% of your life is lived through your computer and smartphones. If it comes to that you could return to the old way of getting things done: on foot, on paper or actually getting together with people in person, no electronic devices. While I see a potential to abuse this new internet, I don't see it as the end of the world. There's plenty of non-internet options.

a reply to: seasonal

I gather the latter will be pushed. Much like taxes and hangings were in the 16th century.

it's not only a british problem. internet restriction/restriction of free speech is a worldwide agenda.
so the MSM backed governments try to tell their sheep which websites and information are safe and which are not and therefore must be blocked?

the same governments that lead us from one unjustyfied war to another with lies and fake news?
zombie hitler certainly approves this!

i don't think they are the right ones to set up rules to regulate freedom of spreech!

about time we the people regulate the governments, not vice versa!

a reply to: Profundity

What I don't understand is why the Tories are considering this. We've got a struggling NHS and people worrying about immigration. There's a great problem of unemployment for people 18-24 and a few million people who aren't skilled for the modern employment markets. We've got zero hours contracts where householders have to wait for a phonecall to say if they've got work today. Shops and pubs have been closing down for years and not being replaced.

My point here is government has more than enough to be getting on with. Real things that matter to the people of this country. Priorities.

a reply to: Profundity

This is eminently foreseeable. No govt likes criticsim and all will yield to the temptation to control and prevent criticsim of govt and spread of new ideas that dont fit the globalst agenda.

As with many things the trickle will quickly turn into a flood.

Surely we all know the supression of free speach starting with racism using it as the arrow point, was the begining of the end of free speech.

originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: Profundity

What I don't understand is why the Tories are considering this. We've got a struggling NHS and people worrying about immigration. There's a great problem of unemployment for people 18-24 and a few million people who aren't skilled for the modern employment markets. We've got zero hours contracts where householders have to wait for a phonecall to say if they've got work today. Shops and pubs have been closing down for years and not being replaced.

My point here is government has more than enough to be getting on with. Real things that matter to the people of this country. Priorities.

That is what I was thinking. At a crucial time, when they are trying to win an election, they are bringing out policies that are obviously going to be unpopular and are detrimental to most of us. Same with the fox hunting statement and the 'dementia tax' they are proposing. It is as if they either don't want to win (and I sure hope they don't) or they know they are absolutely going to win (coz they will pockle the system to do it) and so are for once actually being honest about their intentions, so that if they pockle the system and get back in, they can crow that we voted for these policies, when they get a huge backlash.

If they are trying to loose, it makes me wonder if the corporates who are above the government have a plan to replace them with someone new or something, as they can see the masses are getting well pissed off with them and want to lull us all into a false sense of hope by giving us a change, which will only be a chance of face to deliver the original NWO plans.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: Profundity

If you don't want to read something online then don't go online.

Free speech on the internet should not be restricted. This is a terrible idea.

I sense Alot of people will be dressing up as Citizen V if this happens.

Not in the UK, they have been whipped by their government since 1066.

a reply to: CthulhuMythos

Yeah. Tories have been trying to bring these laws and regs in since 21st Century began. Now they've got two unelectable parties in opposition they can bundle whatever they like into their manifesto. A tax on the poor wouldn't prevent a win in the next election. It's in the bag.

Saying that, if they ever put these things to a vote, I believe most people would vote 'yes' on the basis of 'terrorism' and 'think of the children.'

F***ers

Right wing wants higher taxation, bigger govt with broader powers, increased surveillance and to be the arbiters of acceptable expression
Left wing wants higher taxation, bigger govt with broader powers, increased surveillance and to be the arbiters of acceptable expression

The only differences seem to be who gets taxed what and which taxpayer funded institutions will be left relatively intact at the end of it all, if any.

a reply to: Kandinsky

What I don't understand is why the Tories are considering this. We've got a struggling NHS and people worrying about immigration. There's a great problem of unemployment for people 18-24 and a few million people who aren't skilled for the modern employment markets. We've got zero hours contracts where householders have to wait for a phonecall to say if they've got work today. Shops and pubs have been closing down for years and not being replaced.

My point here is government has more than enough to be getting on with. Real things that matter to the people of this country. Priorities.

That was where Brexit enters the picture I thought, to strengthen the economy.

a reply to: Azureblue

No govt likes criticsim

I would say that likewise, the ruled don't like criticism either. When tensions are high it adds up to who is right.