The Stigmatization Of The "Loner."

originally posted by: FuggleHop
a reply to: SpeakerofTruth

Oviously there are many loners on hear who are feeling butt-hurt because I tell the truth like I see it.

Also its obvious that mankind wouldnt have evolved as it has if being a loner were an acceptable option.

Society has evolved because of men (and women) working together to build and create and make things good.

Loners really don't have a place in modern society.

Sorry to burst so many bubbles.

Why is "and women" in parentheses? I think women deserve to be outside of your parentheses.

And here you are talking up modern society. Go figure.

a reply to: SeaWorthy

When crime was easy to get away with; they were known as "confidence men" and "black widows".

a reply to: FuggleHop

I noticed you take good measure to avoid addressing the problem of tribalism. It's easy for you to sit in your "cliques are good" mentality and berate those who want no part of it, I'm sure.

a reply to: Ghost147

Nope not necessarily.
You see there is 1 extrovert personality that can appear as an Introverted personality and that is the ENTJ.

I am an ENTJ and because we have introverted intuition as our secondary FI, we can appear to be introverted, as we analyse a lot before putting our extroverted thinking into action.

ENTJ's aren't talkers like other extroverted personality types but are the strong silent types.

This is why ENTJ's are the directors/ceo's/team leaders because we can express extrovertly but are introverted intuitively, so we think deeply before putting our plans into action.

originally posted by: FuggleHop
a reply to: SpeakerofTruth

Oviously there are many loners on hear who are feeling butt-hurt because I tell the truth like I see it.

Also its obvious that mankind wouldnt have evolved as it has if being a loner were an acceptable option.

Society has evolved because of men (and women) working together to build and create and make things good.

Loners really don't have a place in modern society.

Sorry to burst so many bubbles.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but your lack of empathy for others is not something you should be proud of son.

originally posted by: mclarenmp4
a reply to: Ghost147

Nope not necessarily.
You see there is 1 extrovert personality that can appear as an Introverted personality and that is the ENTJ.

I am an ENTJ and because we have introverted intuition as our secondary FI, we can appear to be introverted, as we analyse a lot before putting our extroverted thinking into action.

ENTJ's aren't talkers like other extroverted personality types but are the strong silent types.

This is why ENTJ's are the directors/ceo's/team leaders because we can express extrovertly but are introverted intuitively, so we think deeply before putting our plans into action.

The real reason why ENTJs seem introverted is because the dominant Extraverted function is Te (Extraverted thinking). Te deals with solid principles and is not worried about emotional harmony. Ni (introverted intuition) is nothing like Fi (introverted feeling). With Ni as your auxiliary function, you need to put your eyes or hands on the process before you can begin to plan. Since Te deals with solid objects and principles, Te-Ni creates a person who seems introverted and distant because the person is busy on some project, or atleast sending those close hearts around them to go perform their work.

ETA - I am an MBTI and Jungian expert.

a reply to: mclarenmp4

I forgot to add - the ENFP is actually the most introverted Extravert. With Ne (Extraverted Intuition) as their dominant function, they don't even need to use their hands to find patterns. With their auxiliary Fi (introverted feeling), they keep most of their enlightening ideas to themselves, instead waiting for some hero or villain to come along that they can dote on.

The ENFP is the quiet sexual person waiting for a reason to act. The ENTJ doesn't wait to act - they are opportunistic.

a reply to: mclarenmp4

Calling someone "son" is an egoist statement and lacks exactly what you are calling the poster out on... just an fyi there is always a mirror above and below in ones reflection.

originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
a reply to: mclarenmp4

Calling someone "son" is an egoist statement and lacks exactly what you are calling the poster out on... just an fyi there is always a mirror above and below in ones reflection.

In all fairness, he did say he is an ENTJ. It's a typical response for them, and they wouldn't be offended being called that themselves.

I go through phases. I like hanging out with folks for a while then I just want to be alone.

I definitely think the fear of difference is brhind ghe stigmatising of loners as an earlier poster said.

To some, anyone different devalues their own life choices to an unbearable extent.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
I go through phases. I like hanging out with folks for a while then I just want to be alone.

I definitely think the fear of difference is brhind ghe stigmatising of loners as an earlier poster said.

To some, anyone different devalues their own life choices to an unbearable extent.

This is the second time I am saying to you, friend:

Hey, I said that!

a reply to: Ghost147

Remember Ghost! Just because someone says something doesnt make it so.

a reply to: TarzanBeta

Absolutely, I'm no expert on the subject but find the topic very interesting because it does explain our personalities very well.

a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

I have plenty empathy and ego in good measure but it was nice of you to show concern for your fellow poster.
Not sure they would do the same in all honesty.

a reply to: residentofearth

Thank you, Residentofearth from Poland.

Yours was a very well thought out and articulat response (unlike SOME responses here that are just trying to engaije in a shouting match because there opinions arent as thought out and reasoned as opinions by the rest of us sigh).

But I must disagree that its ones right to walk anywhere anytime. In fact, despite the fact that 8 (count them!) people starred your post, you are just wrong. No one has the right to walk anywhere anytime.

For example, lets pertend its 2am and I want to go walking but I only have a small backyard but my naybor has a large backyard. Its where he keeps his chickens. Im not allowed to walk on his property without permission. See its "Private property" and it would be an error in judgment for me to go prowling about on his property.

Or imagine that I think theres a nifty old vehicle in the stack of cars piled up in the old junk yard. It would be illegal for me to hop the fence and go pokling about in the junk yard just because i mistakenly think its my right to go anywhere anytime.

Life simply doesnt work that way in the Usa.

a reply to: Ghost147

Is it even possible for an introvert to be a "sheeple"?

Assuming you're using the term to describe a person who believe an everything they're told and follows the flock.

Conformity is the exact opposite of what naturally drives an introvert.

Can you explain why you keep using this term?

When Fuggihop was in his younger days, he was caught in a rather compromising postion with a sheep in the barnyard, they gave him the nickname sheeple, and it's stuck to this day.

originally posted by: FuggleHop
a reply to: residentofearth

Thank you, Residentofearth from Poland.

Yours was a very well thought out and articulat response (unlike SOME responses here that are just trying to engaije in a shouting match because there opinions arent as thought out and reasoned as opinions by the rest of us sigh).

But I must disagree that its ones right to walk anywhere anytime. In fact, despite the fact that 8 (count them!) people starred your post, you are just wrong. No one has the right to walk anywhere anytime.

For example, lets pertend its 2am and I want to go walking but I only have a small backyard but my naybor has a large backyard. Its where he keeps his chickens. Im not allowed to walk on his property without permission. See its "Private property" and it would be an error in judgment for me to go prowling about on his property.

Or imagine that I think theres a nifty old vehicle in the stack of cars piled up in the old junk yard. It would be illegal for me to hop the fence and go pokling about in the junk yard just because i mistakenly think its my right to go anywhere anytime.

Life simply doesnt work that way in the Usa.

Are you an angry homeless person spying on other homeless people? I've lived on the streets before, a long time ago, but I never judged "Digger" for wanting his couch cusions and crack. That's because he was a forgotten blind man near the Virginia Highlands in Atlanta. Duncan Sheik was playing in Five Points the day I met him. Why would I judge that? I also met Duncan in his 18-wheeler not knowing it was him until later. I got to jam with him.

The experiences you rob yourself of by being a prick... You'll never know.

Maybe there are two types of loners, ones where they reject society and another where society rejects them! The second group would be the dangerous type, they don't want to be a loner but maybe they don't look cool or sound cool and so nobody wants to hang out with them. They get upset of course.

The first group can hardly be dangerous to other people when they can't stand the site of them and wants to be nowhere near them! XD

I would say I am a loner, of the first group variety... It's actually quite annoying for me that I can make friends easily and people gravitate towards me. I just want everyone to stay away! XD

originally posted by: FuggleHop
a reply to: residentofearth

Thank you, Residentofearth from Poland.

Yours was a very well thought out and articulat response (unlike SOME responses here that are just trying to engaije in a shouting match because there opinions arent as thought out and reasoned as opinions by the rest of us sigh).

But I must disagree that its ones right to walk anywhere anytime. In fact, despite the fact that 8 (count them!) people starred your post, you are just wrong. No one has the right to walk anywhere anytime.

For example, lets pertend its 2am and I want to go walking but I only have a small backyard but my naybor has a large backyard. Its where he keeps his chickens. Im not allowed to walk on his property without permission. See its "Private property" and it would be an error in judgment for me to go prowling about on his property.

Or imagine that I think theres a nifty old vehicle in the stack of cars piled up in the old junk yard. It would be illegal for me to hop the fence and go pokling about in the junk yard just because i mistakenly think its my right to go anywhere anytime.

Life simply doesnt work that way in the Usa.

You might want to learn to spell before judging others posts as thought out and "Articulate".

a reply to: SpeakerofTruth

It's a very unfair categorization, but it's what people do. People tend to distrust what they do not know, or do not understand. A loner isn't as connected to as many people, and thus represents an unknown element. When people feel the need to assign blame, it's simpler to assign it to that unknown element, rather than to an accepted member of the in-crowd. Much of the time, of course, it's a member of their own group who is to blame, but they don't want to believe that. To do so would mean they'd have to accept that their own judgment was less than perfect, and thus, another target is needed. There is no real relevance between the two.

originally posted by: FuggleHop
a reply to: Nyiah

And still, I'd report a loner if I saw one.

Nothing more suspicious then a self rightoueous loner.

That statement holds a lot more of a self righteous attitude than does someone who simply prefers to avoid most people. What, exactly, would you report them FOR?? Not being your buddy? Doing nothing to no one?? Being alone isn't a crime, you know. What would you say?

Would you report a neighbor for simply being Muslim?