Young teens beat student to death and upload video to Facebook

originally posted by: MysticPearl
a reply to: SaturnFX

Another red herring.

"# things have happened forever" is meant to distract and deflect from the topic at hand, meant to absolve accountability whenever one likes.

Okay fine. it may be the breakdown of family whatever
explain to me how
tell me how you know the 2 people who murdered that girl and how their home life was
tell me about their parents
you seem to know more than the story is saying, surely you got evidence to back up your claims, right?

no..you have nothing
sorry about your issues with your family, but lets not project it onto randoms until some evidence comes in of..something
they might be from strict christian values family who murdered that girl because she was an atheist. prove me wrong...I'll be waiting.

Every generation is full of crazies, nothing that can be done about it. On the positive side this generation is so conditioned they willingly rat themselves out.

Life on a reserve in Manitoba is rough, my ex spent time in Pine Creek where the murdered girl grew up, she had to fight on a nearly daily basis, because she was very pretty..goddamn place did not have indoor plumbing in many houses..this is in the late 70s to early 80s
RIP Serena

I would like to offer my two cents here.

Facebook and every other soapbox service that gives people access to a public podium, is getting rich off the vanity of humanity and its inherent desire to be seen and heard. I'm not saying the service is evil in any way. It's good business to find that which humanity cannot live without and profit. It just so happens that we have a proclivity to narcissism, albeit in varying degrees. What makes matters worse are internet trends which lead people to act a certain way because someone decided it was "cool" or "edgy". *coughmemescough*

What a normal person used to consider complete and utter stupidity, they now consider the standard for behavior and belief. This is the fruit of social engineering media and the way it was purposely designed so that it's users would have a platform to perpetuate nonsense. Nonsense comes in many forms and you'll find it all over any social media site, not just Facebook.

That being said, the majority of Facebook users go entirely unnoticed because they use it for family and friends, not activism or attention-whoring. So although the idea of Facebook is harmless, it presents an opportunity for those who have extreme behaviors and/or extreme perspectives. In a sea of monotonous posts, there is an ever-encroaching extremity which underpins the very nature of us as humans. That extremity, if left unchecked, will continue to promulgate within the social media ecosystem. Negativity is like a cancer, except this kind of cancer is "thought". The more we think about brutality and showcase the horrors of how a human can become inhuman, we will inevitably lose ourselves and ... the sad part is, we won't even realize it's happened until it's here.

Again, I'm not demonizing these social media platforms. I'm revealing humanity and stating that if WE are left unchecked, we will destroy ourselves. We must reel in the exposure of hate and violence before it consumes us. We are losing children to broken homes, apathetic parenting, impotent education, internet memes and virtual nonsensical subcultures. This is not progress, it's decadence masquerading as evolution.

There's a reason the meek have not inherited the earth; it's the squeaky wheel that gets the grease.

Let's break some axles!

In 2014 Facebook was caught doing a mind control experiment on its users. They showed some people only negative content and others positive to see how they could influence people. Here's a thread about it:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

This should have gotten a lot more attention. It's not just a small test. This is proof that Facebook has been putting resources into mind control projects.

These past few months, we are seeing torture and murder videos on almost a weekly basis. YouTube and other video sites have been around for years, but this is happening on FACEBOOK.

originally posted by: TobyFlenderson
a reply to: MysticPearl

I'd put a caveat to that. According to the OP, the victim was found on a First Nation reservation. If the criminals were First Nation, and assuming the First Nation reservations are similar to the US Native American Reservations, there is far more than the break down of the family involved. When your entire heritage is systematically destroyed and you are physically set apart in rural ghettos of horrible poverty and education, then the value of human life is already greatly degraded.

Good post. There's a lot of terrible things going on in some of these communities including an astounding suicide rate.

The Guardian
Since autumn there have been more than 100 suicide attempts in Attawapiskat, which has a population of just 2,000. The community’s four health workers struggled to keep up, their efforts beset by a lack of training in mental health issues. The youngest person to attempt suicide was 11 years old, the oldest 71.

After 11 people tried to take their own lives on Saturday evening, exhausted leaders declared a state of emergency. On Monday, as officials scrambled to send crisis counsellors to the community, 20 people – including a nine-year-old – were taken to hospital after they were overheard making a suicide pact. “We’re crying out for help,” said Attawapiskat chief Bruce Shisheesh. “Just about every night there is a suicide attempt.”

That being said, people like these two girls make me firmly believe that we should live with an eye-for-an-eye doctrine. If you stomp someone out, you get it in return.

a reply to: SaturnFX

Quiteba few I'd imagine,but sites like ATS don't live feed murders andn # . ..that's my point,in proper .

a reply to: PistolPete

Yep,true.

originally posted by: Aedaeum
I would like to offer my two cents here.

Facebook and every other soapbox service that gives people access to a public podium, is getting rich off the vanity of humanity and its inherent desire to be seen and heard. I'm not saying the service is evil in any way. It's good business to find that which humanity cannot live without and profit. It just so happens that we have a proclivity to narcissism, albeit in varying degrees. What makes matters worse are internet trends which lead people to act a certain way because someone decided it was "cool" or "edgy". *coughmemescough*

What a normal person used to consider complete and utter stupidity, they now consider the standard for behavior and belief. This is the fruit of social engineering media and the way it was purposely designed so that it's users would have a platform to perpetuate nonsense. Nonsense comes in many forms and you'll find it all over any social media site, not just Facebook.

That being said, the majority of Facebook users go entirely unnoticed because they use it for family and friends, not activism or attention-whoring. So although the idea of Facebook is harmless, it presents an opportunity for those who have extreme behaviors and/or extreme perspectives. In a sea of monotonous posts, there is an ever-encroaching extremity which underpins the very nature of us as humans. That extremity, if left unchecked, will continue to promulgate within the social media ecosystem. Negativity is like a cancer, except this kind of cancer is "thought". The more we think about brutality and showcase the horrors of how a human can become inhuman, we will inevitably lose ourselves and ... the sad part is, we won't even realize it's happened until it's here.

Again, I'm not demonizing these social media platforms. I'm revealing humanity and stating that if WE are left unchecked, we will destroy ourselves. We must reel in the exposure of hate and violence before it consumes us. We are losing children to broken homes, apathetic parenting, impotent education, internet memes and virtual nonsensical subcultures. This is not progress, it's decadence masquerading as evolution.

There's a reason the meek have not inherited the earth; it's the squeaky wheel that gets the grease.

Let's break some axles!

Bravo! I was going to post something similar as some folks are so in love with their internet/social media, they tend to overlook the underlying issues.

Your eloquent delivery saved me some time.

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: liveandlearn
a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

I didn't check the links. This is becoming much too common. How can people be so ignorant as to share on social media?

There is something more perverse going on here.

The internet is a cleansing light exposing all the filth that has always existed..its a good thing, but now we are seeing what is in the hearts of some men...and that can be shocking (gives us moments to reflect on ourselves and whatnot)

Yes, that is true what you have said. Most if in fact all humans are of 2 kinds, one, to destroy themselves , and 2 destroy those around him or her.

originally posted by: PistolPete

originally posted by: TobyFlenderson
a reply to: MysticPearl

I'd put a caveat to that. According to the OP, the victim was found on a First Nation reservation. If the criminals were First Nation, and assuming the First Nation reservations are similar to the US Native American Reservations, there is far more than the break down of the family involved. When your entire heritage is systematically destroyed and you are physically set apart in rural ghettos of horrible poverty and education, then the value of human life is already greatly degraded.

Good post. There's a lot of terrible things going on in some of these communities including an astounding suicide rate.

The Guardian
Since autumn there have been more than 100 suicide attempts in Attawapiskat, which has a population of just 2,000. The community’s four health workers struggled to keep up, their efforts beset by a lack of training in mental health issues. The youngest person to attempt suicide was 11 years old, the oldest 71.

After 11 people tried to take their own lives on Saturday evening, exhausted leaders declared a state of emergency. On Monday, as officials scrambled to send crisis counsellors to the community, 20 people – including a nine-year-old – were taken to hospital after they were overheard making a suicide pact. “We’re crying out for help,” said Attawapiskat chief Bruce Shisheesh. “Just about every night there is a suicide attempt.”

That being said, people like these two girls make me firmly believe that we should live with an eye-for-an-eye doctrine. If you stomp someone out, you get it in return.

No, their parents should be held accountable and their faces shown on TV that they raise murders , like they do here in japan

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: MysticPearl
Someone try to convince me the increase in this sort of thing isn't due to the family structure breaking down in the west.

Yes, clearly that must be it.
Life was a utopia before all this internet and no religion in schools...


well..unless you weren't white..then sorry, but it was hangin time with great crowds of people all participating.

Sure, of course you must be right about white people hanging black folks and your implication that it was a solid family structure and the Christian religion that caused that to happen. Why don't you get some statistics and compare the internet video violence to records of white on black lynchings. Compare the family life of first half of the 20th century to the current era of the internet and social media, if that is a valid comparison. Your off handed and unnecessary comment must have merit somewhere out in the real world just because you said it is so.

I have read some books about kids who commit violent acts and the consensus seems to be that when girls commit acts like this they are usually living in a home where they have experienced long-term abuse (usually including sexual abuse) and they have a deep well of anger inside them and have failed to develop empathy and compassion for others.

Sal

a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

This is kinda sad even though I don't even know the victim and live over in the UK. Not that distance matters but anyway.

I'm not too sure I'd be blaming facebook (maybe for coverage as it has mills of accounts) but not for the actual murder! I'd blame films for gloryfying murder... such as 'Hunger Games' as this kinda influences young peoples minds to go do these things... even certain video games can activate mh probs in people but films sort of gloryfy it in another way... youngsters go watch these types of movies and think 'hey... cool'. not saying it's totally to blame but definitely influential! Just like religion is influential to those who then go out and commit a terrorist act or murder their own children for marrying or talking even to someone outside the religion.

originally posted by: TruthxIsxInxThexMist
a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

This is kinda sad even though I don't even know the victim and live over in the UK. Not that distance matters but anyway.

I'm not too sure I'd be blaming facebook (maybe for coverage as it has mills of accounts) but not for the actual murder! I'd blame films for gloryfying murder... such as 'Hunger Games' as this kinda influences young peoples minds to go do these things... even certain video games can activate mh probs in people but films sort of gloryfy it in another way... youngsters go watch these types of movies and think 'hey... cool'. not saying it's totally to blame but definitely influential! Just like religion is influential to those who then go out and commit a terrorist act or murder their own children for marrying or talking even to someone outside the religion.

I remember going to Tarzan movies and then going out in the woods looking for vine to swing on, but that was some 60 years ago. Life does change.

originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
I'm starting to believe social media plays a pretty significant role in all of this.

Believe what you want but it doesn't make it true, stop blaming outside forces and blame those responsible for the murder.

Where was social media when James Bulger was murdered ?

Back then people were blaming films like Chucky for what happened, now today same sh!t, different excuse for instances of humans being sh1tty to one another

a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

This is a good point. I often hear people glory violence in entertainment. And the more gory and horrificly brutal it is, the higher praise it gets.

I personally am not entertained by violence like that. I look at some of these video games on YouTube, and have to turn off the videos after a few seconds they are so graphic. And some movies are just the same. And you read the movie critics and listen to the movie goers and they relish the violence. They laugh at it, and sing it praises.

It also doesn't help that news is peppered with disgusting stories of horrid violence for shock value, and to get eyes reading their stories, on a daily basis.

All of this effects the mind.

I think it was Hitler who used pornography and showed it on a regular basis to his soldiers to get them desensitized so they would relish in the rapes and murders they were going to perform during World War II.

a reply to: SaturnFX

This may came off as cruel and cold, because it is, but I'd happily end the lives of those guilty in this case.

Too much # like this happening. Bring back the guillotine.

You want to take a life? Have your head removed, in public daylight, on Rockefeller plaza.

Don't like it? Stop murdering people.

originally posted by: TruthxIsxInxThexMist
a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

This is kinda sad even though I don't even know the victim and live over in the UK. Not that distance matters but anyway.

I'm not too sure I'd be blaming facebook (maybe for coverage as it has mills of accounts) but not for the actual murder! I'd blame films for gloryfying murder... such as 'Hunger Games' as this kinda influences young peoples minds to go do these things... even certain video games can activate mh probs in people but films sort of gloryfy it in another way... youngsters go watch these types of movies and think 'hey... cool'. not saying it's totally to blame but definitely influential! Just like religion is influential to those who then go out and commit a terrorist act or murder their own children for marrying or talking even to someone outside the religion.

Yeah man. Those violent video-games and movies.

Didn't you know the Romans just loooooved playing Call of Duty?

Don't even get me STARTED on how Pol Pot's fascination with The Purge films, either.

a reply to: RomeByFire

You got me all wrong on this.

I said violent films can be influential to some people..

In Roman times it was all about war and nothing else.