7 officials who admit aliens exist and are among us!

a reply to: Davg80

Man what is going on ? Seems like conspiraties are becomming mainstream.
Yesterday I heard the name of George Soros on the radio news and now I see Guy Coëme on ATS ...

I play soccer with his nefew when I was a teen, met him a couple of times as Waremme (pronounced "War 'em") is really a small town ... and I witnessed the 'black triangle' of the Belgian UFO wave as well.
It's just that, from my personnal observation, there was no reason to be convinced that the thing was comming from an alien world. It still could have been some sort of black project.

a reply to: vinifalou

There's still not one incident that's been proven.
Not a single blasted one.
But we'll just leave y'all alone in you aliens exist bubbles.
See how easy that it?

a reply to: Davg80

Just about everyone on this list is simply speaking an opinion about their belief if alien visitation. For them to "admit" that aliens are among us", they would have to have actual hard knowledge of these aliens are among us.

That's what the word "admit" connotes.

In reality, these people have no hard knowledge, but are simply people who are of the opinion that aliens are visiting Earth. Who they are is meaningless in this case, because they all have said that they did not gain any secret knowledge because of who they are -- i.e., it's just their opinion and belief.

For example, if my plumber or my dentist says that they believe aliens live among us, I would not categorize that as them "admitting" that aliens live among us. It's simply a belief based on opinion, and they are free to have that belief and be of that opinion. Many people ranging from John Podesta to Edgar Mitchell to some of your random neighbors and coworkers have that opinion, and that's fine...

...but it is still just their opinion, not knowledge based on factual proof.

Dont forget Dr. Aquino response from his ATS AMA.



"sightings (i.e. not weather anomalies, liars, people having religious or drug visions, etc.) fall into two categories: sightings of Black Program aircraft and deception operations (triangulated image projections, soundcasts, etc.). The amount and sophistication of both are much more extensive and advanced than most people imagine. Check this list for a start.

There is also all sorts of UFO detection that remains unidentified and unexplained. Lots of stuff hits the Earth's atmosphere all the time and disappears [often burns up] before it gets much attention. Remember too that there's a awful lot of space junk up there from decades of USA & USSR launches, too much to track everything, and every now and then pieces of it fall down here.

That said, and not stepping into Classified sources, I personally buy Roswell as authentically ET. The periodic government re-explanations about various kinds of balloons, crash dummies, and frisbees are pretty funny; this is one of those things that was clearly not done by PSYOP professionals; as we'd have done an airtight, or in this case spacetight, job. And too many interlocking accounts by credible persons with no motive [particularly after "witnessing Roswell" became an automatic ticket to ridicule].

My first conclusion was BP aircraft, but this didn't jibe with the 4 little grey pilots that so many people kept bumping into all the way to Wright. They don't have little grey 4-fingered test pilots at A51.

But this created another problem. Everyone kept handling these little fellows without any bioprotection whatever. In the real world, the big worry about "alien invasion" has nothing to do with Martians in death-ray machines; it's The Andromeda Strain. Our quick-response "interests" are in that direction. This planet has been building up its biosphere for a long time, and life here has adapted to it. You bring in a bug from some other biosphere, no one knows what could happen.

There's only one explanation why the Roswell bioexposure didn't have all sorts of immediate & rippling consequences, and that is that Earth's biosystem had already taken theirs into account. Meaning there had been previous exposure to, and assimilation of/adaptation to, this ET biomaterial. And far enough back in prehistory for it to blend smoothly into evolutionary development here. [You do this short-term, you get something like the Black Death or the AIDS epidemic.]

So they've been here before, and a very long time ago; think 2001: A Space Odyssey. While you're at it, think "the missing link":

Our earliest evidence of man dates to about 1 million years ago. In South Africa a large number of fossil remains of mutated apes has been found. Classified as Australopithecines, these pre-men possess human-like hip and thigh bones in addition to enlarged cranial capacities of between 400cc and 600cc. Conventional theories of evolution can substantiate the continued mutation of this man-ape [or his contemporaries] to the stage of Pithecanthropus Erectus - a skull fragment found in Java with an estimated capacity of about 900cc. Later versions of Pithecanthropus have evidenced skulls of up to 1,100cc. And here we encounter the enigma of the “missing link”.

The Java remains date to the Lower-Paleolithic period - about 800,000 years ago. The next two definitive ancestors of modern man, Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal, did not appear until the Middle-Paleolithic period - about 100,000 years ago. There is some question, then, about the interim 700,000 years. Nor is this the only “missing link” period.

Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal, who were approximate contemporaries, possessed cranial capacities respectively of up to 1,700cc and 1,500cc. How and why did these startling enlargements occur? And why was Cro-Magnon’s cranium in particular larger than that of present-day man, who averages 1,400cc?

How's this for "juicy stuff"? And, as with all my posts here, don't take my word for it: these are all concepts for you to consider for yourself. You take the same facts to a different conclusion, or different facts, be my guest. "

a reply to: Sillyolme

See, I'll not buy this discussion, but IF there was evidence or incidents, don't you think it would be covered up? Otherwise, it wouldn't be a "conspiracy".

The stories are there... Roswell, Los Angeles, Phoenix, etc. If you want to believe in it or not, it is not my problem.

I'm just advising people to stop with this discussion because it will result in nothing.

originally posted by: vinifalou
Medvedev report is amazing, it's sad that people discredit or simply doesn't believe in things that are right under their noses.

Because they believe it must be al bogus, because the government and NASA aren't saying anything about it to the public. How can people be abducted over and over again and the government remains silent? Impossible!

Truth is, the visitors has been interacting and abducting human beings for decades, and the government can't do # about it. But they certainly know what's going on.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Aliensun

And you guys will live in your I believe without a shred of evidence bubble for ever because no proof is coming.

As a UFO abductee of decades ago, I've had my proof for a long time. Maybe long than your belief of denial. Just how much research on the entire topic have you done that has not been sanctioned by the deniers, government and science? Wake up, understand that it is a positive concept to believe that we share the universe even with more intelligent beings than ourselves. Far better than to think that we are the only idiots afoot.

Everyone knows the government always lies unless its saying what you want to hear.

originally posted by: vinifalou
I'm just advising people to stop with this discussion because it will result in nothing.

You got that right.

I like to think that if aliens did exist and are interacting with folks on Earth, and somebody with authority actually did come out and actually admit it and back it up with some hard proof, it would be a big deal and stuff would happen.

But, as it turns out, there has been no big deal, and most people are just going to work and living their lives as if nothing has happened... because nothing has happened. Nothing has changed.

That might be a good rule of thumb for people who somehow believe that aliens are a "given," and that enough proof has already been provided. Because life goes on, and we don't live in a world where human interaction with proven aliens is simply accepted as fact.

I said on a thread topic close to this a few weeks back, I see this as a possibility, one that can't be proved, nor can it be disproved. As we already know there has been any number of allegations made about alien/human experimenting that either, has or is going on in places such as Dulce and others. AS always I try to keep an open mind.

Disbelievers should not bring up Santa Claus in an alien discussion. I mean the guy flys around the world at night with little green men for heavens sake.

a reply to: intrptr

Do these men amount to whistleblowers to some degree? Perhaps.

I give much more credibility to whistleblowers than ordinary government officials.

I have no problem understanding "aliens" are and have been on this planet, probably since before mankind.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: intrptr


I have no problem understanding "aliens" are and have been on this planet, probably since before mankind.

I have no problem understanding the possibility of this, but believing it is fact would take much more evidence for me.

"Believing something is within the realm of possibility" and "Believing there is proof that something is a fact" are two different things.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Yeah, that's a bunch of BS. Tell me what country operates a black box that hides in clouds bc that # happened in front of myself, two roommates and an MD. ALL of us witnessed it and while I don't gaf if you believe it or not, you are sure AF not talking from experience, only out of your ass. Know what that makes your opinion? S**t.BEFORE that happened, I didn't believe it either despite thousands of years of proof left from other civilizations.

originally posted by: PRSpinster
Yeah, that's a bunch of BS. Tell me what country operates a black box that hides in clouds bc that # happened in front of myself, two roommates and an MD. ALL of us witnessed it and while I don't gaf if you believe it or not, you are sure AF not talking from experience, only out of your ass.

I don't doubt that you saw something, but what on Earth made you think that it was alien? Because you're a five-star Air Force general and know what everybody on the planet is experimenting with? Because when it comes to "need to know" you have a super Ultra-Secret security clearance where you are cleared for everything?

I don't know what you saw. And neither do you. Just because something is weird doesn't make it aliens.

theres aliens on saturns moon, and there coming to sort out the non believers.... trust me, i know shhhwww.bbc.co.uk...

in all honesty but Tom DeLonge told us this big announcement was coming, and to read between the lines, well if there is oceans on saturns Moon, how long has that been the case and well, that means there could be intelligent Aliens all over "our" solar system, best strap yourselves in, the news is starting to come hard and fast

Army insiders who ever talk about it say the reason Roswell was covered up was because it happened after the "War of the Worlds" broadcast fiasco which had caused mass panic. They were afraid the existence of real aliens would cause the same thing to happen, only worse. (And this being near the start of the cold war, they were afraid it would leave the nation vulnerable to the soviets in some way.)

The other reason was that they knew they couldn't do anything to fight the aliens, and the public might expect them to. Aliens not existing means government not being expected to do anything about it.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: vinifalou

There's still not one incident that's been proven.
Not a single blasted one.
But we'll just leave y'all alone in you aliens exist bubbles.
See how easy that it?

What is your standard of "proof"? I've seen photos of Big Ben in London, but I've never gone there myself to see it in person. Maybe Big Ben doesn't exist either?

The only evidence that is lacking right now is the government's official acceptance. There are photos. Multiple witnesses whos stories agree with each other on all the significant details. Credible media outlets have published about it (but then came under attack until they submitted and reversed their stories.)

However, if you're an authoritarian who needs big daddy government to sign off on everything before you can believe it, then NOTHING will ever be enough proof for you.

a reply to: bloodymarvelous

yes what you said sounds about right to me, why tell the world there is aliens when they know nothing about them, but what different know, if anything at all, do they now know. or are they still as clueless? i dont know but feel like things are gona start speeding up, in terms of all things alien.......... next step test those oceans for fishies.

a reply to: DupontDeux
Paul Hellyer is also batsh# crazy and couldnt even get his sources right. He never claimed to have ever seen anything personally, he just believed whatever anyone told him - and that is not science. He's only given credibility due to being in the government. You'd think if government employees revealed treasonous secrets they would be killed for it but, here they are.

originally posted by: blueyedevilwoman
Dont forget Dr. Aquino response from his ATS AMA.

Is he your benchmark for truth? You do know he was paid to lie in the Psychological Warfare division right?

originally posted by: Ridhya
a reply to: DupontDeux
Paul Hellyer is also batsh# crazy and couldnt even get his sources right. He never claimed to have ever seen anything personally, he just believed whatever anyone told him - and that is not science. He's only given credibility due to being in the government. You'd think if government employees revealed treasonous secrets they would be killed for it but, here they are.

originally posted by: blueyedevilwoman
Dont forget Dr. Aquino response from his ATS AMA.

Is he your benchmark for truth? You do know he was paid to lie in the Psychological Warfare division right?

Yes he is.
An honorable retired vet.
Founder of the Temple of Set.

Id trust him with my children.

You wouldnt?

He was paid to follow orders.

What would you think Psychological Warfare would involve?

The man did much more than you are aware of apparently.
You should spend some time reading up on him.
A truly great mind of our time.