A B757 hit the Pentagon, reported by GOFER06

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: ParasuvO

And something ENTERING a building with enough force is going to be EXITING the other side. Just as this debris did, just as it did at the WTC.

Where is this thing that apparently exited??

How did it make such a defined punch hole in the wall complete with burns and then entirely disappear...where are the pics of whatever punched so easily and cleanly through the entire building...i guess that was yet another case of the "disappearing things".

Pale5218.....yup, the involved passenger liners, and more......they were vectored toward that and then sent to other airports....

The rondevous was over water anyway.....and went on for hours...

Parasuv0....
They had a pic, but you're right, it looked out of place

They're off busy lookin up my vectors to the east...over the water ....it's a secret

a reply to: ParasuvO

Hi Augustus......it was too like not staying on the subject and blowing off the back and forth

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

There's a knock at the door....BRB....

I'm not really too worried, I'm 65. Years old....

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

yeah, you definitely missed it. there's only one "I don't know" that you've gotten from me, and that's in reference to where the few pieces of supposed wreckage came from.

and unfortunately those photos that you're referring to don't prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that flight 77 crashed into the pentagon. why? because the nature of those photos, the 9/11 commission report, the NTSB, and the official pentagon report gives any common-sense adult the feeling that something's not quite right about this "plane crash."

originally posted by: GBP/JPY

Hi Augustus......it was too like not staying on the subject and blowing off the back and forth

Considering I think a 757 hit the Pentagon I am on the subject.

a reply to: ParasuvO

The black around it was from the fire inside the building. There are actually several pieces of debris that appear to be from an aircraft outside the hole. One is several feet in size, and consistent with the curve of the side of an aircraft.

originally posted by: facedye
yeah, you definitely missed it. there's only one "I don't know" that you've gotten from me, and that's in reference to where the few pieces of supposed wreckage came from.

Right.

we don't know who gave the order to fire off anything at the pentagon that wasn't a 757.

I don't know how they got there.

and unfortunately those photos that you're referring to don't prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that flight 77 crashed into the pentagon.

They do for me.

And the dead people do too. You seem to keep disingenuously leaving them out of every reply. Did they get an all inclusive to Club Fed? Maybe they loaded them on MH370. Or flew them to our secret Nazi moon base.

Ahh, yes I see the two wing marks now....and the engine marks...ha. They went right through the window yes.

Ok

My bad

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: facedye

Of course not. Because there are none. But we can compare other high speed impacts and the wreckage left. The wreckage at the Pentagon is consistent with those.

let's see 'em! I'd love to review those other high speed impacts with you to see how they match up.

based on the boeing-sized aircrafts I've seen crash into either the ground/houses/buildings, they're not consistent with the pentagon attack at all.

some examples:

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

now I'm being disingenuous? you're awful at debating.

I never once stated the people who were supposedly on that plane did not lose their lives.

try harder.

I don't believe Gofer6 any more than I believe Donald Rumsfeld.

The pentagon comes across as some Society of Mendacious Individuals, like a fraternity of sorts. You lie, and I'll swear to it.

I've done it myself, told lies, and I've no doubt that most of us do.

Gofer6 played the game, twice in one day I think, pentagon and shanksville. It was one of the better fake news efforts of the new century.

No airliner crashed at the pentagon, and the mission was accomplished.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: facedye
I find it comical that the scenario you painted above is the most reasonable one you could come up with to describe opposing points of view to your own.

I'm glad I could amuse you. Cruise missile, too funny.

Good thing our super competent government wasn't able to keep it a secret for so long. Thank God for all the sleuthing that uncovered this.

Actually buying into the story that proven liars tell is what is actually too funny. Proven liars that are still proving they are liars today even. That is what you would call a real life fallacy/fantasy belief.

a reply to: facedye

The 727, with the blue stripes was a low speed crash for the Discovery Channel. The MyCargo 747 was a low speed landing accident that crashed into a village. The 737 was, again, a low speed landing accident.

The images above the 727 were fairly high speed impacts, resulting in no large recognizable pieces laying around. That's consistent with Flight 77. It impacted a solid object and left no large pieces.

a reply to: Zaphod58

forgive me but I have to respectfully disagree with your position and assert that you're kind of conveying my own point of view.

I see plenty more debris in both of those photographs you presented than I have ever seen at the pentagon. this seems to be the case for all high impact boeing-sized airplanes I've seen. all, of course, except for the pentagon and shanksville.

a reply to: pale5218

Great thread and information, thanks!

Personally I think missiles but this is still some good information. At the end of the day if it's plane or missile, does it really matter? I think the more important question is, real or false flag?

Oh, Facedye...baby.....that's what one would expect...respect to the first one to that accident scene( he's in the drivers seat )

Big knock man....friggin big knock

Outta the park , that pic dang...one has a pipe thing in it .....steaming pile

a reply to: facedye

I never said there was no debris at them. I said the impacts left consistent debris. As in there wasn't a huge tail section sitting there for all to see, or large pieces if fuselage sitting there burning.

Those accidents left very small pieces of debris, as did Flight 77. If Flight 77 had landed in a field, in the same manner, it would have looked similar to the high speed impacts, and all the debris would have been in small pieces.

Just because we don't see all the debris doesn't mean it's not there. In any investigation there's a lot we don't see, but it's still there.

As for only the Pentagon and Shanksville, there were others that didn't leave much debris found at first, just not all of them were plastered all over the news. Several times military aircraft hit the ground at high rates of speed and it took time to get to the debris, because much like Shanksville, they buried themselves. The Pentagon, the aircraft ended up inside a building. There's no comparison between that and a wide open field.

But what about my brand new Jet Ranger with the news crew with the video reporting live

Maybe I'm remembering wrong, huh

But wait, the three color paint job, I saw a one year old news chopper.....a segment live... reply to: Zaphod58