Calling all, witnesses, of the Pheonix Lights

it is my hope, that, this does not rub the mods, up, the wrong way and if so, I suspect, it will be moved to, another thread, but having recently watched, a documentary by Dr Lynn and, begun looking into this case, again, I was struck by the variable sizes, of the craft and phenomenon reported, that includes more, than just the mile wide boomerang

I was reading that some saw a craft the size, of a football field/half a football field, and numerous saw the mile wide boomerang, but also, that some claim to see a triangle of, 1.5 to 2 miles in width, and, have read that, Dr Lynn is claiming, that when sightings, were all taken into account and flight paths, plotted, that, there were as many as 8-10 objects

would be most interested to hear from any witness who, were there

thanks in advance

originally posted by: Dharma Employee
it is my hope, that, this does not rub the mods, up, the wrong way and if so, I suspect, it will be moved to, another thread, but having recently watched, a documentary by Dr Lynn and, begun looking into this case, again, I was struck by the variable sizes, of the craft and phenomenon reported, that includes more, than just the mile wide boomerang

I was reading that some saw a craft the size, of a football field/half a football field, and numerous saw the mile wide boomerang, but also, that some claim to see a triangle of, 1.5 to 2 miles in width, and, have read that, Dr Lynn is claiming, that when sightings, were all taken into account and flight paths, plotted, that, there were as many as 8-10 objects

would be most interested to hear from any witness who, were there

thanks in advance

I too like reading about the Phoenix Lights and would like to hear some witnesses on their take of events, but just some friendly advice... you can use way less commas in your presentation and it would reach much easier.

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: Dharma Employee
it is my hope, that, this does not rub the mods, up, the wrong way and if so, I suspect, it will be moved to, another thread, but having recently watched, a documentary by Dr Lynn and, begun looking into this case, again, I was struck by the variable sizes, of the craft and phenomenon reported, that includes more, than just the mile wide boomerang

I was reading that some saw a craft the size, of a football field/half a football field, and numerous saw the mile wide boomerang, but also, that some claim to see a triangle of, 1.5 to 2 miles in width, and, have read that, Dr Lynn is claiming, that when sightings, were all taken into account and flight paths, plotted, that, there were as many as 8-10 objects

would be most interested to hear from any witness who, were there

thanks in advance

I too like reading about the Phoenix Lights and would like to hear some witnesses on their take of events, but just some friendly advice... you can use way less commas in your presentation and it would reach much easier.

I am in 12 step program to cure me of comma abuse

a reply to: Dharma Employee

I will offer a bit of advice in the surveying of accounts of that sighting. First, almost assuredly, TPTB would never want, even at this late date, to take that event seriously no matter what has been reported. Second, TPTB will have loaded the various accounts, mostly those anonymously put out in one form or another, to be false or heavily pushing for them to be simply the flares that, again, were evidently an attempt to explain the sighting. So expect such disinfo agents to operate here with your request.

The most striking account that I read seemed to be honest, sincere and detailed about what he, his family and neighbors witnessed. --I don't know where I read it. Maybe even here on ATS. As I recall, he claimed that the huge craft was not very high over their location and that they could look directly up into a one of the huge, round ports that emitted a bright light. The belief was that it was the emissions from one of the "lifter"s (I'll now call it) that allowed the ship to float noiselessly over the city.

I believe a new article on them would be well received even if some of the disinfo folks would chatter that it was old news and the case has been fully solved with the flare issue. Good luck.

originally posted by: Dharma Employee

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: Dharma Employee
it is my hope, that, this does not rub the mods, up, the wrong way and if so, I suspect, it will be moved to, another thread, but having recently watched, a documentary by Dr Lynn and, begun looking into this case, again, I was struck by the variable sizes, of the craft and phenomenon reported, that includes more, than just the mile wide boomerang

I was reading that some saw a craft the size, of a football field/half a football field, and numerous saw the mile wide boomerang, but also, that some claim to see a triangle of, 1.5 to 2 miles in width, and, have read that, Dr Lynn is claiming, that when sightings, were all taken into account and flight paths, plotted, that, there were as many as 8-10 objects

would be most interested to hear from any witness who, were there

thanks in advance

I too like reading about the Phoenix Lights and would like to hear some witnesses on their take of events, but just some friendly advice... you can use way less commas in your presentation and it would reach much easier.

I am in 12 step program to cure me of comma abuse

Lol, it's a great program.

Caller on Coast to Coast this morning said it was an experimental military craft (he suspected), the wreckage of which he found near the Mexican border. Said it was a gigantic plastic scaffold-like structure suspended by balloons.

Said he had pictures...

...but his camera was confiscated by the Border Patrol.

D'oh!

The Phoenix lights has got to be top 3 UFO sighting of all time..

And the fact Phoenix is such a hotspot too..

a reply to: Dharma Employee

a reply to: Dharma Employee

Lynne Kitei has a vested interest in keeping the myth alive , if you want to know what happened that night check This out.

I lived in a suburb of Phoenix,many of the locals saw it,remember strange things flying low and silent there,my son was laying in the pool,he said large silver rocket like thing,flew real low and made no sound,just cast a shadow he said it was huge,in broad daylight was a skeptic till then,cool place for sky watching,something new almost every night

a reply to: Dharma Employee

Not a witness, just surmising, there was a 'mothership' cited as well smaller vessels in the area. Kind of like the way we sail long distances with monster air craft carriers filled with smaller air or sea craft.

Practical and sensical for deep 'ventures', far from home.

a reply to: Dharma Employee

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Love it my friend

This is a long video, but the discussion about the Phoenix Lights is a good one. Linda Moulton Howe discloses things about her in-depth research some people may not have heard in the past.

I'm not sure exactly where the subject of the Phoenix Lights come up, but the entire video is worth the watch.




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originally posted by: TheAlleghenyGentleman
a reply to: Dharma Employee

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Love it my friend

But it can be loved way too much. Don't encourage

I just moved to Phoenix a year ago.. SoI wasnt here back then, but I can tell you one thing...

The sky here is WAAAAAYYY different from the sky where im from (cleveland ohio)

I would find it extremely hard to believe that after experiencing the Phoenix sky for a year that people would have a discrepancy whether the lights were a part of one giant object, or separate smaller objects,,

Because the sky is so incredibly clear here and lit up, you can see distinct details in an aircraft from SUPER far away.

What ticks me off to this day, are the skeptics who casually dismiss this sighting as an elaborate hoax, or military flares. Here are two perfect examples of this:
Phoenix Lights were an elaborate hoax:

The case took a twist two days later when a local television station aired a startling confession by an anonymous hoaxer: he had created the UFO lights using road flares tied to helium balloons, launching them at one-minute intervals. Some people were amused by the hoax, others were angered, and many conspiracy-minded UFO buffs were skeptical of the explanation.

And, as a final nail in the coffin for the UFO buffs who really, really wanted the lights to be mysterious and unexplained… One of the hoaxer’s neighbors, a Mr. Mailo, actually watched the hoaxer launch the helium balloons and flares. Mailo said the flares were lit about 8 p.m., just before the UFO lights were first sighted.

www.csicop.org...

Phoenix Lights were just flares:

Within days, Tucson Weekly broke the news that the Maryland Air National Guard, in Arizona for winter training, had a squad of A-10 fighters over the gunnery range that night, and they had dropped flares. An Arizona National Guard public information officer, Captain Eileen Bienz, had determined that the flares had been dropped at 10 p.m. over the North Tac range 30 miles southwest of Phoenix, at an unusually high altitude: 15,000 feet.

An ASU astronomy professor, a physicist, and other scientists have reviewed the evidence, and found the explanation perfectly plausible. In fact, you can still find that physicist's complete report online.

www.phoenixnewtimes.com...

So, what about the many thousands of Arizona and Nevada witnesses who claimed they were seeing extremely large and solid craft that drifted silently above them? Were they all hallucinating? These people consisted of everyday folk, but also policemen, pilots and doctors. Here's a picture from famed witness and author Dr. Lynne Kitei in 1997:


Now it has been reported that some witnesses experienced a temporary amnesia-like state immediately after seeing the lights. I firmly believe that those National Guard training "flares" were purposely launched as a diversion and to provide an alibi or alternative explanation to this sighting.

in the days before the Phoenix Lights... the skyline in Phoenix was punctuated by more than 12-13 of those 20 foot or so Advertising Blimps tethered to the ground (at the neighborhood mattress monger/car lot sales/ mini-lumber yard or whatever advertiser was attracting attention)...I commented at the time (1997) that was the most I ever seen in the local skies at the same time

Next point-of-interest... the local 'Talk' Radio 'KFYI' began around 7 AM reporting that persons up around Kingman were sighting a Triangle or Boomerang UFO...the sighting continued East on I-40 towards Ash Fork and Flagstaff...
then southward to Prescott Cottonwood, Sedona, (all over the I-17 corridor)
suddenly reports from Wickenburg ( Hwy 93, the western route south to Phoenix from Kingman AZ)

...all these reports trickled in over time to about 3 PM... then the 'dark-Black craft' was back near I-17 at around Black-Canyon city, Cave Creek North of Phoenix... and headed for the City

by around after 5 PM the Craft was silently gliding above Camelback Mountain @ 44th Street (this might be the area where the Doctor Lynn claims start),
then (IT) headed West above the Indian-School-Road to South to around Encanto Park...
then slowly headed south & east to South Mountain and Guadelupe & Chandler & down to Casa Grande then onward to Tuscon by 7-7:30 PM

at around 8PM it was back in Phoenix/Gilbert as a 1 mile big & translucent craft by other than KFYI radio reports


the craft was popping all around the general area for hours... then back & forth to Tuscon


me... I never physically seen it, even when I was watching south from 7th Avenue & Camelback Avenue towards 7th Avenue & Indian-School Road that is barely 1 mile south from my house roof at the late afternoon sighting report @ ISR & Encanto Park



to my senses... the UFO was a public disclosure of a UFO, to see public reactions ... the experimental crafts were linked together to produce one huge object only to separate and disappear again on many occasions during the 12-16 hour display over the States of Nevada & Arizona from Vegas to Tuscon from 6 AM to 11PM that day of 13th March 1997

originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: Dharma Employee

I will offer a bit of advice in the surveying of accounts of that sighting. First, almost assuredly, TPTB would never want, even at this late date, to take that event seriously no matter what has been reported. Second, TPTB will have loaded the various accounts, mostly those anonymously put out in one form or another, to be false or heavily pushing for them to be simply the flares that, again, were evidently an attempt to explain the sighting. So expect such disinfo agents to operate here with your request.

The most striking account that I read seemed to be honest, sincere and detailed about what he, his family and neighbors witnessed. --I don't know where I read it. Maybe even here on ATS. As I recall, he claimed that the huge craft was not very high over their location and that they could look directly up into a one of the huge, round ports that emitted a bright light. The belief was that it was the emissions from one of the "lifter"s (I'll now call it) that allowed the ship to float noiselessly over the city.

I believe a new article on them would be well received even if some of the disinfo folks would chatter that it was old news and the case has been fully solved with the flare issue. Good luck.

Maybe this is the report youtu.be...

youtu.be...

What is wrong with the people of Phoenix?

Here it is 20 years later and they have had 19 years of March's to tell the military to get up there and PROVE IT!
Drop your flares exactly like you claim was done that night and let the whole world see it.

Every March they should be hammering on the air base door
DROP YOUR FLIPPIN' FLARES!

originally posted by: shawmanfromny. Here's a picture from famed witness and author Dr. Lynne Kitei in 1997:

Now it has been reported that some witnesses experienced a temporary amnesia-like state immediately after seeing the lights.

That's an interesting picture, first time I have ever seen that one. That is one of the troubling things about the whole event that thousands saw it, but you can count the photos and video on one hand. And yes, this was pre-smartphone, but I still would expect there would be more photos and video.

As for the amnesia bit, I hate to hear that stuff. It strains credulity on an already controversial event and makes it harder to take it seriously.

originally posted by: jordan77

originally posted by: shawmanfromny. Here's a picture from famed witness and author Dr. Lynne Kitei in 1997:

Now it has been reported that some witnesses experienced a temporary amnesia-like state immediately after seeing the lights. everything

That's an interesting picture, first time I have ever seen that one. That is one of the troubling things about the whole event that thousands saw it, but you can count the photos and video on one hand. And yes, this was pre-smartphone, but I still would expect there would be more photos and video.

As for the amnesia bit, I hate to hear that stuff. It strains credulity on an already controversial event and makes it harder to take it seriously.

Actually, a traumatic experience can cause amnesia. Pethaps these people were more scared than they want to admit.
I don't think reporting Everything that transpired a bad thing.