Trump's Immigration Ban Spares Countries Where He Does Business

As you see the countries selected were chosen by the Obama Administration.

Case closed, Thread debunked.

I would imagine this administration is expecting an attack. Setting the table to blame Obama.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Xtrozero

Then they too would be enemies of the human race, and subject to just attempts to rectify the imbalance their existence creates.

To clarify, the United States government at its deeper levels, is a threat to the whole human race, including most of all, its own citizens. The deep state must fall. There can be no greater priority for those who love the concepts of freedom and liberty, not to mention the idea of a planet which sustains life, being their legacy for the future generations of human beings.

The problem is you think the the human race is basically good and somehow the secret US Government is bad. Humans in general are bad in the first place, and as messed up you might think America's politics are they are far better that much of the world. Through out history and today, humans given a chance, will disappoint the vast majority of the time.

a reply to: xstealth

Jesus, that is the most presidential thing I've seen him say. Im going to need to actually reread it again, but with my amazement in check.

I never thought I would see Trump provide clear, concise points instead of his typical rant.

originally posted by: MOMof3
I would imagine this administration is expecting an attack. Setting the table to blame Obama.

Setting the table for the continued War on Terror to line the pockets of the war profiteers. Just like Obama...just like Bush Jr.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Trump could end it. Unlike Obama, Bush...so no one to blame anymore. He has all of congress to help him end it.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Human beings are not all bad. The majority just want to get on with their lives in relative peace. That is not something the deep state supports. It requires war, avarice, blood sacrifice, to cause undue hardship and unreasonable infringement of liberties. It does not matter that you believe your politics to be better than that of much of the world. First of all, it is not true that things are as good as they could be, given the economic and geopolitical drivers affecting your country. Your nation has the ability, and precedent in its history, to be capable of being a thousand percent better than it is politically. There is no excuse for your nations politics being less than they feasibly could be, none what so ever.

Secondly, being better than much of the world means nothing. Much of the world is given over to chaos and dictatorship. Raise the bar a little, perhaps?

a reply to: TrueBrit

Then let's raise the bar in THEIR nations.

As I just commented in another post, when a country descends into chaos, a foreign policy by other nations that permits that country's brain-trust and natural opposition to flee ensures the demise of that country.

If we want to help those people, we need to protect them there, not here. So that when they prevail, they can make their country great again, to coin a phrase.

Current humanitarian refugee thinking is seriously flawed. It dooms the countries with trouble to generations of chaos and exposes those with the power to do something about it as spineless. Taking in refugees without a plan to fix why they flee in the first place is simply unsustainable and improves nothing.

a reply to: loam

The plan for fixing these things starts with one key factor.

Stop involving western military or intelligence assets, in theaters they have no business being in. Stop funding terror groups, stop arming them, stop utilising proxy armies, stop bombing, droning, assassinating, using special forces or special operations teams there. Stop wielding power. Accept the consequences of decades of failed policy, the consequences being refugees and immigration. THAT is how you end it. Do you know why that is how it ends?

Because if it had not have been for the creation of proxy armies by the US government and friends, then the issues we are facing now would not exist anymore. They do, and the only reason for that is because every bomb dropped, every innocent life taken, creates more extremists. Every occupying force creates more extremists, every action taken on sovereign soil creates more extremists. You want it to stop? You stop creating the circumstances necessary for the rot to grow.

a reply to: TrueBrit

I agree with most of that. Except it seems you heavily weight that against the US. The UK, France, Russia, China, and others all do their fair share of meddling.

It's time for something different.

a reply to: loam

Yes. Not meddling at all.

That would be different. Bombing people, drone strikes, and so on, would not be a new solution at all, but an ages old and intrinsically flawed one.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Perhaps he got a translator....a Trump tanslator...Trumpslator!

a reply to: MOMof3

I can still blame Bush & Obama, too.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I know. That is why we are getting chaos, no promised jobs, instead of the change we were promised. Fighting is not a change, that's been happening for 15 years.

a reply to: JinMI

OMG that's funny. I'm almost tempted to put that in my signature.

Trumpslator....

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I know. That is why we are getting chaos, no promised jobs, instead of the change we were promised. Fighting is not a change, that's been happening for 15 years.

We didn't get the change promised because Obama was a divisive liar who convinced the starry-eyed masses he was antiwar for a vote and a buck. His supporters still celebrate all his empty rhetoric as if it amounted to something gorgeous. They spent the last eight years calling anyone who dared to criticize him a 'racist.'

And that led to Trump's election.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I live in the middle of Christendom. I know exactly who put him in office and why.

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I live in the middle of Christendom. I know exactly who put him in office and why.

Ah, of course you know why and it is definitely totes not the blame of Obama, the DNC, Hillary Clinton or any of their supporters. *heavy sarcasm*

Now THAT is why we are where we are. No one wants to accept any responsibility. No one dares to criticize their own party.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I blame democrats for being lax and stupid. We deserved to lose this election. But, I don't think any of us deserved Trump. I don't hear anything about jobs anymore. He has no idea how important that is to families, more than anything. Full employment with good pay would reduce most of social problems to almost nil. But, we gotta build walls and bully people fleeing war.

originally posted by: Trueman
Good decision. That's what we need, more business, more jobs. Trump got it right once again. He is a president with the balls to fix stuff without caring what twisted politicians and media think.

in North Korea everyone who isn't in prison has "jobs", too...by the way, do any of you right-wingers know the history of trump?.....just imagine boys and girls, if you can go bankrupt 4 times and lose millions of dollars of investors money, and set up a scam university and screw students out of their money......you too can become president!!!