Trumps Press conference, January 11 2017

originally posted by: olaru12
By Donald insulting and calling out the CIA, NSA and others, he just violated the prime directive of....

"Don't **it where you eat"

This is gonna be good!

You keep beating that dead horse, if they were to get him it would have happened already but now that he is potus elect and all eyes are on him, it won't happen especially how sloppy the Cia handled that last fake story of goldenshowergate.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: UKTruth

Rubio was something like the top funded on the RNC side by the Military Industrial Complex. He's local around here. F him!

Two wings of the same bird/vulture!

The Neocons have been exposed, and are desperate to please their handlers!

McCain doesn't surprise me, (teaching an old dog a new trick and all) however Keep a close eye on Rubio and Paul Ryan! They are easily expendable in the eyes of their masters! Will they fall on their sword or finally honor the oath they took to the people and country?

originally posted by: olaru12

We can agree on that. Trump needs to be very careful when blowing up the system. He just insulted the company that is the ultimate expert on explosives among other things. Taking on the MIC; casualties abound. Ask the Kennedys....


If ignorant both of your enemy and yourself, you are certain to be in peril. Sun Tzu

That might also apply to anyone who thinks we would let them get away with it twice.

a reply to: olaru12

Bush told Obama during the transition of power "don't piss off the CIA"

Good reason to employ your own security as rumoured .

The way things have been going and all the lies , it might not be a bad thing to shake some things up.

originally posted by: interupt42

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: UKTruth

Rubio was something like the top funded on the RNC side by the Military Industrial Complex. He's local around here. F him!

As a Cuban I endorse this message. F him and his BS lies and fake conservative ramblings.

He and Hillary are one in the same and love lobbying money and lobbying money only. Neither have any significant accomplishments for the people, only for the lobbyist.


Just finished watching the Head Orange guy conference call and I must say that was refreshing.

Whether you agree with him or not its nice to finally see a non robot politician with emotions speak their mind , versus regurgitate what they have been TRAINED to say.

Now quiet you are fake news. LOL

Too scared to take their questions. He was absolutely terrible.

originally posted by: olaru12
By Donald insulting and calling out the CIA, NSA, FBI and others, he just violated the prime directive of....

"Don't **it where you eat"

This is gonna be good!


Bush told Obama during the transition of power "don't piss off the CIA"

Well if its true that presidents like bush feared these groups, then I am glad Trump is going after them.

originally posted by: fencesitter85

originally posted by: interupt42

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: UKTruth

Rubio was something like the top funded on the RNC side by the Military Industrial Complex. He's local around here. F him!

As a Cuban I endorse this message. F him and his BS lies and fake conservative ramblings.

He and Hillary are one in the same and love lobbying money and lobbying money only. Neither have any significant accomplishments for the people, only for the lobbyist.


Just finished watching the Head Orange guy conference call and I must say that was refreshing.

Whether you agree with him or not its nice to finally see a non robot politician with emotions speak their mind , versus regurgitate what they have been TRAINED to say.

Now quiet you are fake news. LOL

Too scared to take their questions. He was absolutely terrible.

Sure he is a coward for not answering questions about golden showers.

Can you point me to where Obama took questions about his alleged affair with a man named Larry Sinclair, or the disgusting rumors Michelle is a transexual?

Obviously, Obama is a coward that was afraid to answer these hard hitting questions, just like Trump is a coward for not letting the golden shower peddling cnn asking their questions.

a reply to: fencesitter85

Too scared to take their questions. He was absolutely terrible

LOL,
1. No politician or businessman is ever to scared to take a question, they just simply skirt around it.

2. That guy was being an obnoxious loud mouth Ahole. Even his colleague was telling him to calm down , but he was like 'But 'Jason' he attacked our news organization" .

exact translation:
wha wha wha! he called us fake news for our recent F up AND ONLY WE can call people Fake news.


3, He didn't go of a script and answered freely unlike other politicians who say what they are told not what they are thinking. Its refreshing not to see a robot and I don't trust the man.


4. For the MSM, crazywood, and people who have lost their mind on who got elected POTUS.

a reply to: EvillerBob

Well, that's good advice. I agree with you.

I truly hope Pres Trump succeeds, kicks ass responsibly, etc. I had some time to consider my earlier comments. I stand firm that the press, no matter how irresponsible, should have the right to print anything (within the law as it stands) as we have the right and responsibility to question and refute their versions if facts prove them wrong.
Too much can go wrong if a country's president determines what is or isn't "fake news".
In fact, I wonder if the peeing thing, CNN, etc is all a psyop, or the beginning of a war between two billionares- Trump and Turner?
But we are responsible for our own part as well, which in my mind is to:
a) stay vigilant and informed and not fall for lies, no matter who is telling them.
b) support our country's leadership until given clear reason not to.
c) stay vigilant lest certain rights be infringed upon by an overreaching (or novice) government.

a reply to: EvillerBob

How does he not make us look spineless and weak? He's bending over backwards to appease Putin when it was Russia's actions in Ukraine that caused the increased tensions in the first place.

He's acting like it was all our bad and that we should just ignore the fact that Russia annexed Crimea (a move only recognized by countries like Iran and North Korea), supplied the weapon that shot down MH17 (as far as I'm aware Russia is the only country to decry the JIT findings), has threatened and attempted to stabilize governments friendly to the US (for example moving nuclear capable Iskander missiles to Kaliningrad early last year), and is the one that broke ties with NATO (not the other way around.)

His position on this makes him appear way weaker and subservient than Obama ever did.

a reply to: Grambler

How do you know the CNN reporter was going to ask a question about that? Can you show me where Obama refused to take questions from Fox News despite publishing ridiculous stories originally found on sites like WND and Breitbart?

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: EvillerBob

How does he not make us look spineless and weak? He's bending over backwards to appease Putin when it was Russia's actions in Ukraine that caused the increased tensions in the first place.

He's acting like it was all our bad and that we should just ignore the fact that Russia annexed Crimea (a move only recognized by countries like Iran and North Korea), supplied the weapon that shot down MH17 (as far as I'm aware Russia is the only country to decry the JIT findings), has threatened and attempted to stabilize governments friendly to the US (for example moving nuclear capable Iskander missiles to Kaliningrad early last year), and is the one that broke ties with NATO (not the other way around.)

His position on this makes him appear way weaker and subservient than Obama ever did.

If you can not spot the cabal of politicians, shilled for by the media, trying to take the USA to the brink of war with Russia, then you are not paying attention. In the face of all this and fake news being used daily to smear him, Trump is not wavering in his intent, and campaign promise, that he would work with Russia to destroy ISIS and try to find common ground to improve the relationship. I can tell you that from outside your country, that looks incredibly strong, not weak.

There are few people who could have withstood what Trump has in the last 18 months and especially last two weeks. The fact he is not wavering is a huge sign of a very strong US to come, one that will almost immediately gain respect around the world when he takes office on 21st January.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Grambler

How do you know the CNN reporter was going to ask a question about that? Can you show me where Obama refused to take questions from Fox News despite publishing ridiculous stories originally found on sites like WND and Breitbart?

Have you ever watched a press conference with the POTUS? They take a dozen or so questions. People raise their hands and they are called on. There may be 50 media orgaanizations or more in a room, but only a dozen or so get called on.

Do you have even one example of a media member in the past shouting at the potus or potus elect and demanding to be heard?

Supplemental question, can you point me to any story that fox ran that accused Obama of sexual perversions?

a reply to: UKTruth

I've said it elsewhere that I have no problem with the US seeking closer ties with Russia. But to ignore what they've done recently and act like we were in the wrong makes Trump look like he's nothing more than Putin's puppet.

Putin invaded and annexed Georgia in 2008 in a move that many on this site (not me) consider legitimate. When Obama called for a reset on relations in 2009 the Right slammed him for being weak. Fast forward to today and we have a Russia that has annexed a part of Ukraine, fomented and supported a civil war in Ukraine, provided the weapon and possibly had a direct hand in shooting down a civilian aircraft, broke ties with NATO, and has threatened US allies. And Trump wants to not only reset relations but act like the US was the one in the wrong? And the Right wants to call Trump strong? I'd say that goes far beyond hypocrisy.

originally posted by: fencesitter85
Lol, it was utterly hilarious. He completely bombed. More evasive diversion. Basically said he won't release his taxes 'because only the media is interested' (completely false). What are you hiding Donnie? An endless rambling mess about how amazing he is for not directly managing his companies (of course he won't), talking in the third person like a complete ego maniac, pointing to piles of paperwork, running away and getting his boring lawyer to ramble on for 20mins when it got tough, aggressive with the press... absolutely pathetic.

Oh and all you republicans who INSISTED Russia didn't hack the US - Dear Leader has now admitted it. another 180.

The most awkward and embarrassing press conference since Clinton saying he didn't do Monica.

I think you might find that no one is denying or has denied that Russia hack the US. The question that is still unanswered is whether the information wikileaks published came from Russia. No evidence for that. The conflation of two separate issues, intended or otherwise, is easy to spot.

As for the press conference, achieved all the goals as usual. Trolled the dishonest media, especially good in that he singled out CNN, gave the finger to partisan hacks whining about tax returns, sorted out how he will separate his business from his job as POTUS, didn't back down even a bit on how he intends to work with Russia, and delivered another fantastic phrase to grab social media space, #germophobe

Nice work, proven by the fact Trump haters hated it.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

What about Afghanistan, Libya and Syria? Who in his right mind would want to cooperate with the USA?

The point is, you are the hypocrite. Why do you want to pretend like it's only Russia who does not respect the international law, when it's both the US and Russia, and all of the superpowers doing the same thing. Once you recognize that fact, the better

He absolutely kicked CNN down and put them in their place. Calling them Fake News was correct and priceless. They came up with that idiotic term to shield the pedos in Pizzagate and I'm loving that its turned around to bite not only the MSM but also our tainted intelligence department. He also handled himself far better than Obama has in the past as was noted. Obama took a few pre approved questions and would then dance around and joke and hem and stammer if they got tough with him.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: UKTruth

I've said it elsewhere that I have no problem with the US seeking closer ties with Russia. But to ignore what they've done recently and act like we were in the wrong makes Trump look like he's nothing more than Putin's puppet.

Putin invaded and annexed Georgia in 2008 in a move that many on this site (not me) consider legitimate. When Obama called for a reset on relations in 2009 the Right slammed him for being weak. Fast forward to today and we have a Russia that has annexed a part of Ukraine, fomented and supported a civil war in Ukraine, provided the weapon and possibly had a direct hand in shooting down a civilian aircraft, broke ties with NATO, and has threatened US allies. And Trump wants to not only reset relations but act like the US was the one in the wrong? And the Right wants to call Trump strong? I'd say that goes far beyond hypocrisy.

I was a huge Obama fan back in 2008. I don't mind admitting to shedding a little tear at his inauguration. I thought at the time his stance on Russia was the right one. His subsequent weakness let everyone down, though I think his awful pick of Hillary Clinton as SOS was probably the biggest mistake he ever made.

In my opinion the greatest villains in our current political landscape are the truly disgusting NEOCONs that penned the Project for the New American Century. Not Putin, not even Kim Jong Whatever in North Korea. They are not much better, but nothing will be achieved if America continues to point fingers at others and tries to claim some moral high ground that it has no business sitting on.

a reply to: UKTruth

I think you might find that no one is denying or has denied that Russia hack the US. The question that is still unanswered is whether the information wikileaks published came from Russia. No evidence for that.

That's not true. There's evidence.

Why Feds Are So Confident Russia Was Behind the DNC Hack and Other Breaches

The U.S. government provided new details today that revealed how a state adversary broke into American computer systems and allegedly influenced the U.S. democratic process.
In a report issued this afternoon, the FBI and Department of Homeland Security outlined “technical details” that led them to conclude Russian military and intelligence services were behind a massive cyberassault on U.S. institutions, including a breach of the Democratic National Committee that became public earlier this year.

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: UKTruth

I think you might find that no one is denying or has denied that Russia hack the US. The question that is still unanswered is whether the information wikileaks published came from Russia. No evidence for that.

That's not true. There's evidence.

Why Feds Are So Confident Russia Was Behind the DNC Hack and Other Breaches

The U.S. government provided new details today that revealed how a state adversary broke into American computer systems and allegedly influenced the U.S. democratic process.
In a report issued this afternoon, the FBI and Department of Homeland Security outlined “technical details” that led them to conclude Russian military and intelligence services were behind a massive cyberassault on U.S. institutions, including a breach of the Democratic National Committee that became public earlier this year.

The technical details they have published give zero evidence as to the Russians handed wikileaks anything. In fact it has been reported that the intelligence services have never once even had access to the server, relying only on Crowdstrike (that is true up to the 4th January 2017). You are once again conflating a hack with a relationship between wikileaks and Russia and the transfer of information.

I have actually outlined some data they could publish, that is in no way secret, that would provide evidence of a link between Russia and Wikileaks. It's simple, but so far nothing even as simple as I mentioned has been produced. At this stage, and going on the report, it seems clear to me they have no evidence at all.