President Obama Shuts Down Possibility of Trump’s Muslim Registry

a reply to: enlightenedservant

I think the difference between Males and Muslims is that little word RELIGION.

a reply to: JesusXst

So what about my Christian example? You sure ducked that one lol.

I am not singling out Muslims. I am discussing a specific issue where radicalized Muslims are waging war around the earth. Not just here. Everywhere. It needs to be addressed.

If you come into the US I think you should be tracked. Any religion. Any person. I would suggest a 10 year probationary period myself.

What this is about would be attacks on US soil that if 2 things were tracked better, travel to terror regions and immigration from terror regions, there could be zero attacks in the US.

Sorry to have strayed to other crimes as that is for another thread.

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: JesusXst

So what about my Christian example? You sure ducked that one lol.

I didn't duck out of anything, I simply avoided everything else you said, like one would avoid a plague. And why you might ask yourself did i do that? Because, I Don't Care..

originally posted by: LumenImagoDei
a reply to: matafuchs

That goes for any death be it by car, gun, terrorism, etc., so why are you singling Muslims out? Far less people have been killed by Islamic terrorism than guns yet you think Muslims are a bigger threat?

I guess we'll also have to get rid of dogs. They cause hundreds of thousands of dog bite injuries every year and even kill some of their victims. After all, even one is too many.

a reply to: xuenchen

your title: "Muslim Registry"

Your post read "screening terrorists"

You mean all Muslim terrorist? Some Muslim terrorist? Illegal (Muslim) immigrant terrorist? Wtf you're trying to say?

I'd bet your favorite chips are bag of bull#

a reply to: enlightenedservant

Well, I have always wondered why if a child is bitten by a dog the dog is put down but if a child is raped by an adult they can be out with short sentence and rehabilitation. Poor dog just went...dog.

My point is if there were multiple attacks by a Catholic group in the US in the last 30 years that has caused thousands of deaths in the US I would be for better tracking. Not matter who it is.

There is no reason that every Law Enforcement Agency cannot contact a centralized database in minutes or during a stop. Spend the money on that.

Take Islam as a name out of it and you would still want to find out why. To me, Islam is the descriptive. I just do not want radical terror in the US. The followers of Islam are the ones committing the crimes.

a reply to: mekhanics

Muslim registry of all Muslims entering US. Some might be terrorists. That is what is being said.

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: xuenchen

Scraping the seriously useless right wing blogs.

NSEERS was called “ineffective and discriminatory” by the ACLU and accurately so. The program didn’t yield any convictions for terrorism,

And dismantling this is a problem, why?

You know what it did do? It kept people from over-staying their visas. Essentially, it prevented illegal immigration.

a reply to: JesusXst

Yet you cared enough to reply in the first place. Strange logic there.

Just admit it, this anti-Muslim registry crap is a way to scapegoat us. We all know non-Muslims commit the vast majority of crimes in the US. And since the vast majority of Americans are self identified Christians, it shouldn't be a surprise that the vast majority of American criminals are also self identified Christians. But you don't care about that either, huh?

a reply to: matafuchs

I am not singling out Muslims. I am discussing a specific issue where radicalized Muslims are waging war around the earth. Not just here. Everywhere. It needs to be addressed.

LOL This paragraph contradicts itself. You're not singling out Muslims because you're discussing a specific issue about Muslims and only Muslims. Got it.

Trump responds ..... and he means business !!

Team Trump Promises ‘Much More To Come’ on Entry-Exit Registration System in First 100 Days

President-elect Donald Trump is planning executive actions and proposed legislation on border security in the first 100 days, according to a transition team official.

Answering a question from Breitbart News on a conference call with reporters, Trump transition team spokesman Jason Miller reacted to the news that the Obama administration had scrapped the National Security Entry-Exit Registration System.

Miller indicated that there would “much more to come” in response to the decision, as Trump finished making appointments in the necessary areas of government dealing with border security and immigration.

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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: matafuchs

More people have been killed by white males in the US. Should we also have a registry of everyone immigrating from Europe?

Only if they are Muslim. Funny how they cry terrorism is the reason for lists like this one but never cry for a list of the terrorist from other religions.

a reply to: xuenchen

The reason it was stopped in 2011 was because they saw the ability to again grow their voter base by millions as they have done with Mexico...letting everyone in. Trouble is, those from Mexico actually integrate into the US culture and are fairly accepted for the most part. The only stories we hear of mass immigration from Muslim heavy countries is rape pillage bomb and inability to adapt.

They saw the numbers and jumped. Unfortunately we are now seeing the consequences in other countries like Germany where they are now back peddling like crazy because of the cultural clashes.

What sucks is now you have Obama, having opened up the borders and shutting down a vetting program to allow for freedom of movement for immigrants and Trump has to now fix it. Sure he will appear to be intolerant and whatever at the start, but I guarantee he will stop violent immigrants from coming in by strict screening.

To me, no American life is worth the cost of letting a violent extremist slipping by because of lax immigration. If people want to be here then they should be willing to do it the right way and it may take a while for them to do that.

Hell...we all go through 12 years of school, then some college and some further. You don't expect to be born, turn 18 and be called a doctor do you?

Immigration is almost like a participation trophy these days....as long as you are on the team you get a trophy...as long as you make it across the border your an american....

Anywho...I digress.....

a reply to: enlightenedservant

Singling out Muslims for review during immigration...you are smarter than that.

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: xuenchen

Scraping the seriously useless right wing blogs.

NSEERS was called “ineffective and discriminatory” by the ACLU and accurately so. The program didn’t yield any convictions for terrorism,

And dismantling this is a problem, why?

It really isnt.

Trump can simply issue Executive Order to have Muslims vetted before entering the US.

Not a problem at all.

Not sure why the artice title is worded like that.

Misleading.

originally posted by: Urantia1111

Trump can simply issue Executive Order to have Muslims vetted before entering the US.

Not a problem at all.

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And Muslims can simply claim they are Christians and walk in without vetting.

Many Jews claimed they were Christians during the Nazi occupation of France and Poland to escape the death camps.

How to solve this?

The Muslims that really want to enter the US for the purpose of attacking aren't going to say they are Muslim on the application forms.

So, you'll only get the decent Muslims in the registry, and the innocent will be persecuted once again for the sins of the guilty.

a reply to: Urantia1111

Trump can simply issue Executive Order to have Muslims vetted before entering the US.

How would that even work? The US has "visa free" agreements with around 3 dozen countries. The citizens of those countries can already enter the US as tourists without having to apply for a visa (here a link the State Dept's list). In other words, they're literally not vetted before entering the country.

But citizens from other countries are vetted before entering the country during the visa application process. And all people applying for refugee status are already vetted, which is the entire point of applying for refugee status in the first place. To gain "refugee" status, an applicant has to prove who they are, where they're from, why they're fleeing, etc.

So which immigrants are you talking about? Guest workers like the H2-A and H2-B programs?

a reply to: AMPTAH

So, you'll only get the decent Muslims in the registry, and the innocent will be persecuted once again for the sins of the guilty.

And that's what they're really after. It's never been about protecting American lives. If it was, they'd be waging a war on cancer and heart disease instead. Those 2 categories of illnesses kill more than 1 million Americans every year and cause millions more to suffer.

a reply to: xuenchen

The president can't make laws,must go through proper channels,even though he acts like a dictator,more media crap