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Carrier Union Boss: Trump is Lying His A** Off

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posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 01:09 AM
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CNN Money

It appears the 1100 number is completely wrong.

350 Research and Development jobs were never leaving the U.S.

730 Union member jobs and 70 office/clerical workers were left. 550 jobs are going to Mexico from the Indianapolis facility and 700 from the Huntington facility.

The 550 Indianapolis facility people really thought they were keeping their jobs. They were laid off, so carrier can hire 550 in Monterey, Mexico.

None of these numbers make sense. It seems to only leave the R&D jobs that were never leaving.

Dealmaker? NO, showman. Well. showman is being too nice. He wanted a news cycle to say he saved jobs. He's a fraud. The Art of the Fraud.

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posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 01:15 AM
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originally posted by: reldra
CNN Money

It appears the 1100 number is completely wrong....

Dealmaker? NO, showman.


strange way to look at the bright side.


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posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 01:15 AM
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LOL. Ya, in the video...the bright side is, a few jobs aren't going to Mexico...but most are. Almost all they wanted to send to begin with.

He's a 'glass half full kind of guy'.


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posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 01:17 AM
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Yup, Trump lied again. What else is new with this guy.

I'll be honest, when the news came out about this deal, I thought to myself this seems like a good deal. But now that the real number is really retaining about 200 jobs with about 500 already slated to stay before this deal; the tax payers are going to get stiffed here.

Let's see, losing 550 jobs, and paying for 50% of the plant upgrades which will automate even more jobs out the door. Way to bargain Donald. I'm sure those laid off Carrier workers (and laid off teachers that will be necessary to pay for the upgrades) will be just tired of winning soon.

F me. Trump is going to make GWB (who was most likely the worst president in the last 100 years) look like George Washington. Trump is the ultimate con man. You can already see that he's going to make a huge mess, blame others, and leave everyone to clean up after him.



originally posted by: reldra
CNN Money

It appears the 1100 number is completely wrong.

350 Research and Development jobs were never leaving the U.S.

730 Union member jobs and 70 office/clerical workers were left. 550 jobs are going to Mexico from the Indianapolis facility and 700 from the Huntington facility.

The 550 Indianapolis facility people really thought they were keeping their jobs. They were laid off, so carrier can hire 550 in Monterey, Mexico.

None of these numbers make sense. It seems to only leave the R&D jobs that were never leaving.

Dealmaker? NO, showman.

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posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 01:20 AM
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350 + 730 +70 = 1150.

1150- 550-700= minus 100

No the numbers dont make sense



posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 01:20 AM
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Well that's hardly a shocker.

Such as been his modus operandi for his entire career in business. It's all he knows how to do!


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posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 01:20 AM
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Do you have another source? CNN is fake news.



posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 01:22 AM
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No its tabloid journalism this is under the story 'TRUMP WALKS ON WATER-WETS MOTHERS CARPET


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posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 01:22 AM
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CNN again ? Even with all the lawsuits filed against them ?
They all but done

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posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 01:23 AM
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originally posted by: MediaCensor
a reply to: reldra

Do you have another source? CNN is fake news.



It is a taped interview with the Union head. You go find your own source.


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posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 01:24 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog
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CNN again ? Even with all the lawsuits filed against them ?



I am not going to stoop to answering sourcing questions about a taped interview. Try again.


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posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 01:25 AM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: MediaCensor
a reply to: reldra

Do you have another source? CNN is fake news.



It is a taped interview with the Union head. You go find your own source.

Oh , with a Union head . As in talking head ? A Union that takes the dues from folks and gives them to the DNC ? Dues that are meant to help Union employees in times of need? That Union ? That talking head ?

Shop steward for 10 years....
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posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 01:26 AM
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Your info is a little off. The 350 is not Carrier, it's another company, Rexnord.

Jones added that Trump should also help the 350 workers at an Indianapolis plant owned by another company, Rexnord, which is also slated to move to Mexico. Workers there are also members of USW Local 1999.


800 jobs saved and 300 never leaving according to CNN


To get the higher number, Carrier and Trump are counting 300 administrative and engineering jobs at a different facility in Indianapolis that were never at risk of being shipped to Mexico.


Where did you pick up the 550 number from?

Silver lining is that 800 minimum jobs were saved.



posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 01:27 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: MediaCensor
a reply to: reldra

Do you have another source? CNN is fake news.



It is a taped interview with the Union head. You go find your own source.

Oh , with a Union head . As in talking head ? A Union that takes the dues from folks and gives them to the DNC ? Dues that are meant to help Union employees in times of need? That Union ? That talking head ?


To the DNC? He is the head of the local Union. He states he was happy, at first, when Trump stepped in. But not now. as people who thought they were keeping their jobs are LAID OFF and Carrier will be hiring in Mexico.

Do you not comprehend? That and English, in the sense it is a language I assumed you spoke?
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posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 01:28 AM
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So he lied and will continue to do so in the most brazen fashion, for now we will live in Trump's world where up is down and 1+1=5 , the polar caps aren't melting and smoking reduces the risk of lung cancer...


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posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 01:29 AM
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originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: odzeandennz

He's a 'glass half full kind of guy'.



You seem like a "take the glass and smash it if you dont like it" kind of girl


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posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 01:29 AM
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You didnt read it all , or as usual dont get it...read again



posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 01:30 AM
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originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: odzeandennz

He's a 'glass half full kind of guy'.



You seem like a "take the glass and smash it if you dont like it" kind of girl


No, you are incorrect.


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posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 01:30 AM
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You can b itch about the union all you want. The reality is that many of those "trump"ed up numbers was a lie and that many of those 1100 jobs and Trump just committed corporate welfare at our expensive to the tune of $7 million to save 200 jobs (again 500 of them were already slated to stay before the deal).

We got hosed.


originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: MediaCensor
a reply to: reldra

Do you have another source? CNN is fake news.



It is a taped interview with the Union head. You go find your own source.

Oh , with a Union head . As in talking head ? A Union that takes the dues from folks and gives them to the DNC ? Dues that are meant to help Union employees in times of need? That Union ? That talking head ?

Shop steward for 10 years....


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posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 01:32 AM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: odzeandennz

He's a 'glass half full kind of guy'.



You seem like a "take the glass and smash it if you dont like it" kind of girl


No, you are incorrect.


Well I know you about as well as you know Trump so theres a good chance everything you think about him is incorrect as well



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