Blame Tories For Ogreave So Corbyn Can Continue His Abuse Cover-Up

Orgreave can't be used as a simple way to further attack the police because far too many people are asking questions about the involvement of other agencies. So it's being used against the Conservatives instead. The idea is to help Corbyn rise to power. He is a spook who's central task is covering up the sex entrapment scheme that controls much of British politics.

Dear Jeremy, As you know, for decades there was widespread child sexual abuse taking place in the London Borough of Islington. The extent of the abuse was only uncovered through the tenacity and bravery of whistle-blowers, journalists and survivors which led to a number of independent inquiries and the damning Ian White report in 1995. As with the rest of the country, the reality is that child abuse was rampant, ignored, covered up and the extent of it is only just beginning to come to light. The attitude was that of the Head of MI5, who was revealed yesterday to have written about a paedophile MP to the then Cabinet Secretary Sir Robert Armstrong in 1986: ‘At the present stage…the risks of political embarrassment to the government is rather greater than the security danger’

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My concern is about your politics and how that results in actions, or in this case non-actions. As we have seen with the appalling misjudgements of the NCCL and its allowance of membership to the Paedophile Information Exchange in the 1970s, sections of the left were in denial of the motivations of some campaigners and this unwillingness to face up to unpalatable possibilities clouded judgement over the most serious of allegations.

In fact the allegations were true and are true as survivors increasingly choose to speak out. The establishment and sections of the left stood by and allowed children’s lives to be destroyed.

The reason that your response and inactions to these matters is worthy of specific scrutiny is that unlike others who did not see what was happening, or as we saw with Saville, kept their suspicions to themselves rather than speak out or investigate, you are wishing to lead the Labour Party during the period of Goddard inquiry into child abuse and are seeking become Prime Minister.

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Orgreave is being used as a Tory-bashing fest so Corbyn can continue the entrapment scheme cover-up.

Campaigners slam Tories for ruling out Orgreave inquiry

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a reply to: Kester

This is all fascinating but personally, I couldn't give a crap about Labour, but I do care about Tory-bashing, because that party is the most vile & corrupt party I ever witnessed in this country, the people of the U.K. should be uniting against this party and standing up to where they're trying to take this country

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum
a reply to: Kester

This is all fascinating but personally, I couldn't give a crap about Labour, but I do care about Tory-bashing, because that party is the most vile & corrupt party I ever witnessed in this country, the people of the U.K. should be uniting against this party and standing up to where they're trying to take this country

I'm not a Tory ..... or affiliated with any other political party in the UK, i vote when required based on "best guess" at the time of any election / referendum. I am of the opinion that "they are all the same" to be quite honest.

So, as the Conservatives are "the most vile & corrupt party" which party would you rather have representing the country and why?

Thanks

On topic: Orgreave has not made the news since October 2016 in the UK, maybe did in Yorkshire i don't know, not that that is an excuse to forget this event. I fail to see then how this is helping Corbyn in the context you have used

a reply to: Zcustosmorum

I think the most important point here is the idea that JC is covering up the abuse if children. Not a tory vs lab debate.

Got any more links Kester? About JC covering up.

originally posted by: and14263
a reply to: Zcustosmorum

I think the most important point here is the idea that JC is covering up the abuse if children. Not a tory vs lab debate.

Got any more links Kester? About JC covering up.

That maybe and I'm sorry for the victims, but I don't think it's a strictly Labour problem, I distinctly remember a story involving Maggie Thatcher covering up for one of her M.P.'s in regards to child abuse.

The story here is a sideshow

Corbyn?

Shouldn't these clueless morons be looking at Virginia bottomley, the conservative health Secretary who did nothing?

a reply to: Zcustosmorum

Definitely not just a labour thing. If anything the background of the tories indicates child abuse. Their schools, their clubs, their practises.

It is interesting though that JC is getting support from those of us who want the child abuse stuff blown open. If he is in on it TPTB have done a brilliant brilliant job of slight of hand.

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum
a reply to: Kester

...because that party is the most vile & corrupt party I ever witnessed in this country, the people of the U.K. should be uniting against this party and standing up to where they're trying to take this country

Strangely enough, that's exactly the same view I take of Labour and why I support the Tories. Funny how people can have such polar opposite views of things.

originally posted by: EvillerBob

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum
a reply to: Kester

...because that party is the most vile & corrupt party I ever witnessed in this country, the people of the U.K. should be uniting against this party and standing up to where they're trying to take this country

Strangely enough, that's exactly the same view I take of Labour and why I support the Tories. Funny how people can have such polar opposite views of things.

Guess it depends on the kind of world you want to live in mate.

Arms-dealing, corrupt banker/paedophile protecting, elitist scum just ain't for me

originally posted by: and14263
a reply to: Zcustosmorum

Definitely not just a labour thing. If anything the background of the tories indicates child abuse. Their schools, their clubs, their practises.

What are you talking about? Do you seriously think that public schools are hot beds of child abuse? Or that by going to a public school you are more likely to abuse children? I genuinely don't know what to make of that statement except to say it is seriously incorrect.

a reply to: Kester

Watch out. Talking about pedo satanism kundalini gets your efforts labeled as fake news.

We prefer to pretend its all fake. So much more pleasant.

Unless you are a kid being raped to death.

a reply to: Flavian

Have you ever heard of the term 'faggoting out'?

Have you ever researched the effects of being faggoted out at public school on the mind of a male?

It's not pretty.

I am not generalising about all public schools and pupils within... Only a tight circle. But it DOES go on and it IS a fact.

originally posted by: and14263
a reply to: Flavian

Have you ever heard of the term 'faggoting out'?

Have you ever researched the effects of being faggoted out at public school on the mind of a male?

It's not pretty.

I am not generalising about all public schools and pupils within... Only a tight circle. But it DOES go on and it IS a fact.

It's also a fact that a lot of Labour MPs went to a public school, are they exempt from your generalisations?

This is about the paedophile information exchange, a grubby network of grubby men in the '70's and '80's that while not exactly championed by the left, were not vilified either and if I remember the points correctly were to an extent defended with regards to their 'rights'. I don't know if Corbyn spoke about the group specifically, but as it was active in geographic areas were he was particularly vocal, it seems reasonable to assume that if he didn't he would still have been aware of it. To that extent it's fairly much fact, not an email taken out of context by rabid republicans, so the reference a few posts above to 'fake news' don't really come into play.

BTW, an article in Socialist 'worker' slamming the Tories - in other news scientists have discovered water is indeed wet.

a reply to: and14263

Margaret Hodge, the children's minister, will deliver an apology in the high court . . . pay his legal costs and make a charitable donation, which will go to Nacro (National Association for the Care and Resettlement of Offenders).

A statement issued last night from Ms Hodge said: "Solicitors for Mr Panton and myself have been in discussion to work out the implications of those requests. I can confirm that we have agreed the following. A statement in court will be made reiterating the apology. "I will donate £10,000 to Nacro and have agreed to pay Mr Panton's legal costs."

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With this in mind, perhaps the easiest option for Corbyn would have been to remain largely silent. Is that the path he chose? Demetrious Panton certainly thinks so. Now a successful barrister, he has spent much of the past 20 years campaigning for justice for fellow child abuse victims, many of whom were Corbyn’s constituents, and says he has no recollection of the MP ‘making any public comments’ about it. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Demetrious Panton is a name worth searching. Sorry, I'm having a really stressful day and I've had to bail on this one.

a reply to: uncommitted

Of course both sides. One party is no better than the other in most respects. I'm not here to support any political party. It's a waste of one's time.

originally posted by: and14263
a reply to: uncommitted

Of course both sides. One party is no better than the other in most respects. I'm not here to support any political party. It's a waste of one's time.

But you made a point of suggesting it was more likely of the conservative party, so you actually did suggest otherwise.

a reply to: KesterOrgreave being used to bash the Tories? I think you aught to really adjust your first paragraph. The Tories are not partly to blame for Orgreave they are fully to blame. It is not about bashing Tories, it's about getting justice for Orgreave. The Tories at that time Wrongly used the police as their personal army and the police went along with that. So yes the Tories want bashing and the police wants to clean their house and new laws want passing to stop this ever happening again.
That in a nutshell is why this government will not allow an inquiry because if all the dodgy unlawful dealing were ever allowed the light of day no sensible person would ever vote Tory again. At that time the coalfields WERE in a police state ruled by a dictator.
I was not at Orgreave but was among it and the dirty double dealing done by the government at that time was verging on the criminal. It had nothing to do with coal fired emissions or how they portrays coal as dirty it was done for one thing and one thing only, to forever break the unions and the power they held.
So stop trying to muddy waters by alluding to the present situation with Corbyn by mixing it up with Orgreave.

a reply to: and14263

From 1994 to 1997, I was a ministerial advisor on child protection for the Department of Health. I have seen the files. I know what was going on. There were serious and credible allegations that some care homes for children in Islington operated as brothels, with small children hired out for sexual abuse. Islington Council doggedly tried to obstruct the investigation. The main culprit was Margaret Hodge (former minister for children – the irony!) who now chairs the Parliamentary Accounts Committee but was then leader of Islington Council. She was strongly supported in her obstructionism by Jeremy Corbyn.

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As recently as November 2014, Corbyn in effect lied to the House of Commons. He implied that, although there had been instances of sexual abuse of children in Islington, the council had investigated and done their best to put things right. In fact, he knows fine well that Islington Council fought tooth and nail to avoid an investigation. When a report was prepared, they blocked its publication for 20 years. Does the Labour Party want a leader that lies to the House of Commons? What is worse is the foolishness of trying to cover this up. It has been all over the internet for many years.

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Wiki? Thats pretty weak man. Please try harder.