Mars Rover Image w City and Large River. NASA/JPL Image Restored

a reply to: Arnie123

For sure . It is an amazing tale. I try to spread it to everyone I can because if true it has the potential to be game changing and the more people who can read it the more productive there are to find faults and truths . So far I have found no faults and that's with the help of a very smart programmers here at ats

a reply to: Another_Nut

Hmmm, so down the rabbit hole we go? Oh what a ride this is going to be. I've always been interested in Mars, in my opinion its littered with things from a previous time when life thrived. It truly is a dead world.

No scale anywhere. Put a ruler in those images and suddenly your vast cities turn into 2cm rocks again. The whole thing is obscure and blurry. And the idea that JPL would go away if they found life on Mars is ludicrous. And please explain how a 'biological entity' can survive in an atmosphere 1% of Earth's. Another NASA lie, I suppose. These things are just so disappointing. All you've got here is a vivid imagination.

a reply to: Arnie123

MSS is supposed to be a company who provides camera equipment to put on the rovers and vehicles that JPL puts on mars or other places

originally posted by: schuyler
No scale anywhere. Put a ruler in those images and suddenly your vast cities turn into 2cm rocks again. The whole thing is obscure and blurry. And the idea that JPL would go away if they found life on Mars is ludicrous. And please explain how a 'biological entity' can survive in an atmosphere 1% of Earth's. Another NASA lie, I suppose. These things are just so disappointing. All you've got here is a vivid imagination.

I was thinking the same thing about scale. Sure, we see some square or rectangular rocks, be he then claims one is a water tower, one is a building with a roof overhang. I mean, to me I had no idea how big these things actually were, he zoomed in so much in some cases that they could be no bigger than my hand.

I'll be honest I only watched the first 20 mins as I'm on a lunch break at work. The video itself I like for some reason it seems better presented that some of the other videos we see about aliens etc etc

I don't think I'm convinced though that there are flowing rivers or cities on mars from this video. It does however make you question a few things and open up the mind a little bit. The only difficult thing when viewing the pics and as SCHUYLER said is that it's difficult to get a scale on these pics

Great video though I enjoyed it

a reply to: Strebor

Thanks for that..
I watched the whole thing
mind blowing
The part showing the roads and pillars blow me away

a reply to: schuyler

I don't agree.

I'm sorry Nasa forgot to add a ruler to the probes?

I'm also sorry that the sensors to measure depth and foreground were off, I guess, right? Apparently...

Did you expect 4k Cameras on those probes?

As for biological entities, who says they were alive? Remains, ruins, dead planet come to mind? Also considering the crazy and weird life that survives in our world in conditions that kill man, far faster than exposure to a martian atmosphere, it is not at all hard to believe something is still crawling around.

Imho, ruins of a previous civilization on a dead planet.

I only watched a small part of the "city" segment, but the scale is wrong.

The only mountain peak on Gale crater is Aeolis Mons, and I think that's what we see on the other side of the supposed river, the start of the north side of Aeolis Mons. As we don't have an ID for the photo (as usual with YouTube videos) we cannot confirm or even get a better image.

The "river" only looks like a river because the photo is too blurry, there are hundreds of photos of the strip of fine sand between the area where the rover landed and Aeolis Mons, (like the one below) and it's also clearly visible on satellite photos.

I saw a little more of the video and I could see that the photo was identified.

What we see is not Aeolis Mons, is the crater rim. I will look for the original photo (not the mosaic).

This is what we can see in the video.


This is what the original panorama looks like.


I will look for the original photos used to make the mosaic tomorrow.

Edited to add that if you open the second image in a new tab you can see it full size.

a reply to: ArMaP

He shows that exact original, making adjustments results in the first image. He points this out.

a reply to: Arnie123

So, it only looks like a river because he changed it to look like one?

a reply to: ArMaP

No, that is subject to speculation. The whole point becomes clear as to the implications, regardless of satellites, the US is the only nation with rovers on the surface. "Rovers", of course the russians an brits landed as well, however each resulted in a tragedy.

He who controls the source and flow of information.

Call me crazy, ignorant and missinformed, but I've long had suspicions about Mars (an moon) images and what gets released. In an unrelated issue, if the DSM was caught being BIASED and with an agenda, what does that say about other institutions? It maybe nothing.

He simply changed color contrast and tried to bring out more detail. Speaking of which, how are you determining scale? Or is this a guess? Much like my guessing, hench speculation.

You see blurry images, I see what looks like a river. However I also pointed out in my post that it could just be a smooth martian soil, which looks like a river.

I have my suspicions, but I also speculate on more of the down to earth explanation.

Interesting share-
@9:00 to 9:23 the circular "rock crop"

a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

Is this in regards to what he speculates about the, "top was ripped off, exposing inner walls..."?

I really like this video, the YouTuber is pretty humble, even alludes to lighting or other explainable phenomena, ultimately leaving it up to you.

Most folks doing this just try to thrust it all on you and claim FACT.

i stopped watching when he says there's a city in that valley. BS
lost any credibility at that point. so, i wasn't going to waste time with the rest of the vid.

a reply to: ishum

Then why comment if you have nothing of value to add?

You don't like the video, so what, move along.

I mean, were you not able to comprehend the title to deduce the contents of the video? Was the information within the thread not a significant precursor to what we may talk about and view in the video?

Actually, the title of the thread says it all. If you don't have anything to add, don't post.

a reply to: Arnie123
No, he actually didn't mention it Arnie... it kind of resembles a common professed disk.

Great video and very thought provoking.

Just the thought of some of the possible outcomes staggers the mind