Do you fear death?

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a reply to: denybedoomed

Good existence, good trip Bad existence, heavy $#!7

Good gets good
Bad gets bad

Justice is eternal?

Absolutely, yes. I'm mortified.

I fear non-existance. I do not fear the experience of dying. Even a painful one.

There is that Mark Twain quote: “I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.”

While that puts it into perspective it does little to ease the suffering I experience about it now while i'm breathing.

I actually have money put away for cryonics and i'm a huge advocate towards life-longevity. While death may be inevitable, i'd like to push our meeting back as long as possible.

I'm all about an afterlife as well. I have zero belief in religious claims, but if there's another life after this one i'm all about it. Actually, i'd love to create one ourselves to upload our minds to! There is a fantastic episode in Black Mirror season 3 that centers around that idea.

a reply to: droid56

No, I am not afraid of dying and at my age it is welcomed.

i have posted many times the following

in 1973 I was in a wreck. A young man came barreling toward me in an intersection. He hit my car into someone's yard. As the impact seemed inevitable, I thought to myself, so this is how I die. Only thing, there was an extreme peace and calm that accompanied the thought. Where did that come from? I also had this peace when I finally got the courage to get a divorce after 37 years marriage.

I later recalled Corrie Tenboom's question to her dad when asking for the ticket for the train. He said, you will get the ticket when it is time (or when the train comes). I know this doesn't mean much to some, but when the time comes, the peace will come.

The incident was over 40 years ago and I have never been afraid since.

As a soldier, dying was always in my job description...

But it isn't death itself I'm afraid of, it's what my death will do to my family.

Those we leave behind.

Yes. Cancer sucks.

originally posted by: droid56
I have some doubts about the light. Hope it's the right way to go.

Run Mate! It's a freight train. Woo woo.

P

a reply to: SaturnFX

What if you're wrong? what if you find out tomorrow irrefutably that all this is simply a cosmic reaction and there is nothing after, this is all there is, all there ever was, or ever will be.

would you then fear? just curious if the calm is 100% spiritual based or if there is a certain meditative viewpoint you have overall.

I have had ADC ( After death communications ) by several people in my life including by my deceased father.

I know there is so much more after death, it is beyond words.

My beliefs are not from a religion point of view.

a reply to: Informer1958

it is beyond words

When they communicate to you is it beyond words? If so, why call it communication?

Genuinely interested.

Like many others on here I don't fear death. I fear the leaving of my loved ones. I fear the possibility of not seeing them again. There way to many things that a lot of people has seen and experienced for death to be the end. The spirit lives on. Taking whatever form it may to whatever destination awaits. If we haven't realized that everything is cyclical before we die, maybe it will just be a nice surprise then.

sounds like most of you should.

Philippians 1:21 For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain.

a reply to: Josephus

sounds like most of you should.

I have zero fear of god, devil, hell, et cetera. I fear non-existance because the evidence suggests that's what occurs at bodily death.

I appreciated the veiled threat though. Always amusing

a reply to: droid56

In my head death is part of life. All that matters to me is what you do from birth to death. Great threat s/f.

Edit to add:

Be kind to others as we are all humans and we make mistakes and forgive freely. Life will be good.

a reply to: droid56

I think death fears me.

originally posted by: droid56

And then there is the mystery of possibilities. I don't fear it. I embrace it. I welcome it.

Bring it on.

It's not death you should fear, it's being unable to die.

And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. -- KJV, Revelation 9:6

The fact is that death is an illusion. We can't die. We can just change our form. Like changing clothes. We always exist somewhere. We don't remember. But, we're always somewhere, aware and awake, or sleeping, semi-conscious or fully conscious.

Because we identify ourself with our "skin", we think of losing that skin as death. That's like a person thinking he's dead because his clothes got old and torn, and fell off his body.

The time comes when men "wake up" and realize that the world is an illusion, and there's no real death. At least, not the idea of death that is popular.

There are actually two kinds of death. The first is losing the human body. People call that death, because those left back on earth don't see the dead, only the lifeless skin left behind.

The second death, is when the soul gets stuck, "trapped" into the same routine, doing the same things over and over again, with no way to escape that routine.

Still, you're alive, just stuck in "a pit". So, it's called death, in the scriptures.

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. -- KJV, Revelation 21:8

In the second death, you find yourself still burning with desires, but no way to fulfill them, trapped in a repeating pattern of activity that's unfulfilling...this is what the Christians call Hell.

So, enjoy your skin while you have it, and prepare for the revelation when it comes.

a reply to: droid56

I think that the pain before is the biggest fear.

As a paramedic, I have smelled roses when partners have and have not. I didn't smell them at every death I was present for though.

Misspent youth investigating and participating in esoteric and physic pursuits, I have been more than once been convinced there is a before life, an after life and planning for soul growth between.

But, it could all be fantasy. Maybe Davy Jones is waiting.

a reply to: Lucid Lunacy

When they communicate to you is it beyond words? If so, why call it communication?

Genuinely interested.

When I found out about my father death he came to me while I was sleeping.

This is what happened:

I was sleeping, I was dreaming about something can't remember what it was then all of a sudden I found myself in complete darkness, I couldn't see anything, however my awareness became very strong so strong that I felt I was awake it was so black so dark, I stretched out my arms, I tried to look at my hands I couldn't see them.

I was beginning to get scared, I remember thinking where am I, what is this place. Then far away I saw a pinhole of a light it was very tiny in the beginning, it began to grow it was brilliant it was the color of the whitest white I have ever seen, I remembered I became calm, I wasn't scared anymore, I looked around I didn't see a floor or walls or ceiling, then very far away I saw a circle in the middle of the light open and someone stepped out of it.

I was trying to figure out who it was, I only could see the the dark outline of a man, then I recognized the man's walk, it was my father.

My father had a look on his face that I have never seen before, it was of such serene such love such peace, I remember what he was wearing, he was wearing a powder blue button shirt, the shirt had four pockets on the front and had a white floral design running down the buttons and he was wearing Khaki pants.

There is a reason I am telling you about the clothing because something happened later on.

As I was there looking at my father, a man I have not seen in over 38 years, at the time he spoke to me, however he never opened his mouth it was telepathy but I recognized his voice, he said I have crossed over, I have passed on, then he smiled and said you will be ok, you are going to be fine. At that moment I had a thousand questions I wanted to ask him but he said I must go now I love you he said as he turned around and walked back into the light, he walked to the center where there was an opening and I watched him step through it and when he did all that brilliant light zapped into a tiny hole and disappeared and I was back into complete darkness.

Immediately I woke up and shook my partner awake and I told him that my father was dead.

My partner said someone would have called you if your father had died, I thought about it for a minute and said I don't think so, my mother would have told my sister to not tell me.

I have not seen my parents since I was 14 years old, I am 58 now.

I decided to call my sister who I have been in monthly contact over the years, she answers the phone, and I said dad is dead isn't he.

My sister told me the truth then and said yes he is, how do you know she asked? I told her he came to me this morning and told me. I asked my sister how long has dad been dead and she tells me he passed away over two and half years ago!

I was shocked! So we yelled at each other for a moment and she told me that mother didn't want you to come to the funeral. I said oh she didn't want her day ruined and my sister said exactly.

So I told my sister about dad coming and telling me he past on and I told her what he was wearing ( no kidding ) my sister drop the phone and let out a scream!

My sister told me the clothing I described to her was what my father was buried in and she said I will never doubt anything you ever tell me about your strange phenomenons again, she said there was no way in hell I could have known what he was buried in because she knew I had not seen my father in 38 year and only two people were at the funeral and that was her and my mother.

Not only did I speak to my deceased father, but I got confirmation that it was very real.

originally posted by: Informer1958
This is what happened:

Thats a pretty wild story.
I would have wrote it off if not for the clothes thing. What does it all mean? who knows. one would be inclined to suspect that means...the whole ghost thing, but it could be a half dozen other things of course.

Thats the issue with all this life after stuff..its enough to get you intrigued, but always stops just short of having some solid evidence, even personally.

Yeah, it could have been Dad coming to you in a dream, or some sort of psychic outreaching..perhaps aliens or demons messing with you, etc etc...no way to tell.
Same with me. I have had some pretty wild experiences, but if I am honest, it could have a few different answers than the one that it seemingly could have been.

I will just stick with cautious optimism and hope while continuing to investigate for more evidence..even if its just personal evidence.

I wonder if its designed this way...if everyone knew flat out there was some sort of afterlife..why even bother trying soo hard in life. just off yourself the second things go a bit wrong. Measures would have to be taken in order to keep life as precious as it is and for us to fight to stick around. could be the whole design to not give any extraordinary evidence to fully prove

originally posted by: Matrixsurvivor
Nope. Not scared at all. I actually would welcome it. I think this world is a huge trap of non ending futility. BUT...I have others that love me and that I love, as well. That's why I keep plugging along.

I second everything Matrix just wrote. Perfectly sums up my feelings, thank you!

I think there is something after death from an experience i suffered as a child. I was hit by a car and knocked out, i wake up in the ambulance and am strapped down head immobile and all. Well i remember seeing the emts cutting my clothes from above my body which should have beeen impossible from being strapped down. Thing was i was embarassed to be naked in front of all these people who were only helping me lol.

later after i woke in the hospital i had two black eyes swollen shut full of glass shards so i really shouldnt have been able to see anyways. Always made me wonder if it was just the brain injury or more to it im getting old now so it scares me as i dont want to leave my loved ones.

One thing i do think is that it took almost 14 billion years for me to enter this world maybe it will happen again sometime because i have no clue of waiting that long to be me so confusing the unknown is what scares me to death thanks for reading love to hear all of your thoughts.