Polls: Dramatic inflection point Trump falling 6 to 12 pts in just 5 days after 2nd debate.

originally posted by: MysticPearl
a reply to: Willtell

Are you trolling?

OP's assertion was that Trump was falling AFTER the debate.

Your own posts only shows polling from BEFORE the debate.

Good lord, critical thinking has evaporated around here. People can't even read anymore.

I’m such a critical thinker I’ve written two or three OP’s declaring Trump is deliberately losing the race.

You obviously haven't read many of my posts

Get busy

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: whyamIhere
Educate yourself...

You are backing a criminal.

Lighten up Francis...

Just think of me as your big toe...

You made me say it..

We're all very different people. We're not Watusi. We're not Spartans. We're Americans, with a capital 'A', huh? You know what that means? Do ya? That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world. We are the wretched refuse. We're the underdog. We're mutts!

So we're all dogfaces, we're all very, very different, but there is one thing that we all have in common: we were all stupid enough to enlist in the Army. We're mutants. There's something wrong with us, something very, very wrong with us. Something seriously wrong with us - we're soldiers. But we're American soldiers! We've been kicking ass for 200 years! We're ten and one!

a reply to: The angel of light

The polls are rigged to sew into the fibre of the public consciousness that a Clinton win is inevitable and creates a possible range of outcomes.

1)People sat on the fence vote for Clinton as they feel voting Trump is a fruitless.
2)The voting system is so rigged that if the majority go for Trump with a landslide vote and the machines are rigged for Clinton then the people will feel the result was legitimate because the lying deceptive propaganda mainstream media told them so.

Just more dirty tactics to get the Globalist puppet into office.
And in regards of Republicans dropping off from supporting Trump,remember it's a one party system,2 wings on the same bird masquerading as choice to polarize the people into 2 divisive camps each blaming the other for the countries woes whilst the bunch of career politicians rape the nation.

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: whyamIhere
Educate yourself...

You are backing a criminal.

Lighten up Francis...

Just think of me as your big toe...

You made me say it..

We're all very different people. We're not Watusi. We're not Spartans. We're Americans, with a capital 'A', huh? You know what that means? Do ya? That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world. We are the wretched refuse. We're the underdog. We're mutts!

So we're all dogfaces, we're all very, very different, but there is one thing that we all have in common: we were all stupid enough to enlist in the Army. We're mutants. There's something wrong with us, something very, very wrong with us. Something seriously wrong with us - we're soldiers. But we're American soldiers! We've been kicking ass for 200 years! We're ten and one!

Awesome

ADD: The Video

I haven't been to ATS in a while. I see the "Deny Ignorance." tag line is not longer around it looks like, and I think get why.

You posted completely liberal sites saying Donald Trump is doing bad. Donald Trump could be up +50 points and 90% of mainstream media would still say he's doing bad. Some people around here either don't read the WikiLeaks e-mail dumps or are paid shills. The MSM (Mainstream Media) is colluding with the Hillary campaign and democrats.

You can post links to some polls from all of the liberal websites that say Hillary is winning, Trump is spiraling. I could link all of the conservative websites saying voters don't care about his "grab 'em by the pussy remarks", he wrecked her in the debate, she's spiraling, and show that he's winning in a landslide.

Polls aren't a reflection of public opinion, only a tool to influence public opinion.

originally posted by: olaru12
I wonder how far Trumps numbers will plummet with this revelation. It's going viral.

www.ibtimes.com...

Next Trump will be saying "I'm the Greatest Rapist, I know more than anyone about Rape, I have raped thousands and thousands..."

I love outdated and biased polls.

So exciting.

a reply to: The angel of light

You completely ignored me proving your OP to be BS.

originally posted by: ugmold
Next Trump will be saying "I'm the Greatest Rapist, I know more than anyone about Rape, I have raped thousands and thousands..."

When people want to be raped, they ask who will rape them the best? Everyone tells me Trump is the best at rape.

originally posted by: Willtell
As usual the Angel of Light is right!

Donald Trump’s sexually aggressive comments sent his presidential campaign into a nosedive this past weekend, according to polls conducted in the 48-hour period between the release of an 11-year-old video of Trump bragging about groping women and Sunday night’s second presidential debate.

www.politico.com...

As of Wednesday afternoon, a handful of state and national polls that were in the field when The Washington Post first released the Trump video — have been released. And they almost uniformly show big gains for Hillary Clinton in the immediate aftermath of the video and the internecine bombardment from Republicans across the country announcing they wouldn’t support Trump or calling for him to be replaced on the ticket.

Trump is really taking a pollster beating over this

Though I don't think Trump really wants to win but this event has made him crazier.

Amazing how quickly they set up all the logistics for these polls in 48 hours. Almost like it was planned.

originally posted by: whyamIhere
Educate yourself...

You are backing a criminal.

Polls do lie, are you kidding ?

People on high horses generally fall the farthest.

Dude, educate YOURSELF, you are backing a moron, who could start WW3 over a pissing match. Hilary is the ONLY choice!!!!!!

a reply to: The angel of light

Thanks for the op-ed with the nice pocket full of sourced links. Much appreciated.

I think what I find most interesting is that now both conservative and traditionally leaning Republican news sites and blogs are also printing negative stories about Trump. In the social and media world, his wealth made him invulnerable enough that he could get away with behaving so badly - money and power glossed over everything.

He must have felt invulnerable.

I think that it's NOT all about The Tape - Republicans and conservatives have been concerned about his lack of interest in policy (basically he just repeats that he can solve everything and he's making America great without explaining exactly how he intends to do this) and the tapes only put a finishing touch on their scorn. He's come up against something that neither fame nor money can fix.

I wonder if his marriage is getting rocky as well.

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

Amazing how quickly they set up all the logistics for these polls in 48 hours. Almost like it was planned.

These organizations have been in the business for decades (or upwards of a century.) They are able to find the respondents and ask the questions so quickly because it's their job.

...kinda like my car mechanic can fix my squeaky brakes and rotate my tires and change the oil in two hours. It'd take me forever but because they have experience and have the right tools, they can do it quickly.

a reply to: Byrd

I wondered about this too, (how his marriage is holding up) and psychologically, narcissists do very, very poorly with rejection. I think he will handle losing very badly after the election. At times there can be a debilitating depression for these folks, which can last for years, or it can be projected onto others. I'm sure it will be an exaggerated reaction, whatever it is. He won't go quietly and his emotions will be visited onto others in one way or another.

He won't of course, blame himself for losing, but there will be plenty of blame....

Hello angel of Light, Thanks for being late to the party.

I suggest you look at those polls and their sampling data. Here is the NBC/WSJ poll in which the polling was done by Hart research Associates.
Here is an article breaking it down. Poll Skewing

Since I know you will not read it, seems like a represenative sample....not.


But wait it gets better The president of the polling Company Hart research Associates is Geoff Garin who just so happens to be working as strategic advisor for Hillary Clinton’s Priorities USA Super-PAC. But wait that's not all.
FEC Filings show Priorities USA super Pac giving Hart research Associates $220,500 in september alone.

Talk about a conflict of interest.

And top it off Nebraska Senator Fischer has un-unendorsed Trump.

Don't quit your day job.

originally posted by: WaterReflection
I haven't been to ATS in a while. I see the "Deny Ignorance." tag line is not longer around it looks like, and I think get why.

You posted completely liberal sites saying Donald Trump is doing bad. Donald Trump could be up +50 points and 90% of mainstream media would still say he's doing bad. Some people around here either don't read the WikiLeaks e-mail dumps or are paid shills. The MSM (Mainstream Media) is colluding with the Hillary campaign and democrats.

You can post links to some polls from all of the liberal websites that say Hillary is winning, Trump is spiraling. I could link all of the conservative websites saying voters don't care about his "grab 'em by the pussy remarks", he wrecked her in the debate, she's spiraling, and show that he's winning in a landslide.

Polls aren't a reflection of public opinion, only a tool to influence public opinion.

Never thought that so many people have no problem of being lied to.

Do they realize how much of a POS the liars think they are?

They lie everyday to their face and it gets eaten up and spread like cholera.

Hillary has been doing that to her supporters for decades.

The MSM looks down on them, hillary holds them in utter contempt, none of them think they even deserve to be told the truth.

originally posted by: jellyrev
Hello angel of Light, Thanks for being late to the party.

I suggest you look at those polls and their sampling data. Here is the NBC/WSJ poll in which the polling was done by Hart research Associates.
Here is an article breaking it down. Poll Skewing

Since I know you will not read it, seems like a represenative sample....not.

But wait it gets better The president of the polling Company Hart research Associates is Geoff Garin who just so happens to be working as strategic advisor for Hillary Clinton’s Priorities USA Super-PAC. But wait that's not all.
FEC Filings show Priorities USA super Pac giving Hart research Associates $220,500 in september alone.

Talk about a conflict of interest.

And top it off Nebraska Senator Fischer has un-unendorsed Trump.

Don't quit your day job.

The sampling is random. The goal is certainly not to have the same number from each political party.

Nearly all the scientifically conducted polls are saying pretty much the same thing. Trump's goose is cooked. If you don't believe it, feel free to prove them wrong on election day.

Or will you claim it was rigged?

They all thought that about the "brexit" vote even the leader of the winning side presumed he'd lost a close race ,but hey in these times the intelligent silent masses combined with the populous apathetic herd destroy evil corrupt ugliness.

a reply to: Greggers

Its not a sample of a population if the sample does not match the population. It destroys the validity of any sample. Any psychologist, sociologist or statitiscian would tell you this.

Thats why we use scientific polls not internet ones, because they attempt to create a representative sample

a reply to: jellyrev

The sample in that particularly poll very clearly doesn't match the population. Forget the partisan breakdown. Look at the question on the 2012 vote. In the real world, Obama won the 2012 popular vote by 3.9 percentage points. Respondents of this poll, however, voted for Obama by a 13 point margin.

That's a clear example where the poll sample doesn't match with verifiable real world results and because of that, it should throw the rest of the results into question as well.