Trump declares himself free from ‘shackles’ — and threatens to burn the GOP to the ground

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: olaru12



If both parties crashed it would hinder them significantly. If only one crashes it instead increases their power hold substantially.

Think about it. What system operates best for the dark lords? Trump just handed them their control on a silver platter.

Brilliant in a surrealistic Machiavellian, take no prisoners sort of way. Was Trump an unwitting pawn or was he a brilliant actor.

We're not in Kansas anymore....

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Puppylove
Both need to be torn down or it's doing more harm then good. With only one torn down, we have a bunch of divisive groups vying to be the new number 2 making the democratic party which has been taken over by Crony Capitalists pretty much completely unopposed.

What you and many others fail to realize is that Capitalism is based on cronyism, good ole boy systems, lobbyist for extremely powerful corporations that control the distribution of food, energy, information, money, EVERYTHING.

They have methods to deal with malcontents. Even in my small village the Cops have a Hummer with a gun mount on top. Black unmarked SUVs etc.

It's a brave new world.

Very confused, you seem to be suggesting capitalism is somehow new to America - could you give a date when it wasn't capitalist? I'm not knocking it, thing is very few countries are totally hard and fast on one ideology, but to use the phrase 'it's a brave new world' about capitalism in the US jars somewhat.

a reply to: olaru12

Good riddance GOP.

Maybe we will get another party or see a third party rise versus having two DNC parties?Both the GOP and the DNC have acted the same despite their rhetoric.

1. Bigger gov't
2. Less privacy
3. More taxes
4. More corporate and .01% friendly laws
5. Less free market



Na Na Na Na Hey Hey-ey Goodbye

In regards to this effecting Trump: I don't see why since they were never really behind him and part of his popularity is that the MSM,DNC,GOP, and the establishment doesn't like him whether real or not this only solidifies his support further.

I can't stand him, but I would be lying if I say I don't appreciate the perception that the establishment hates him.

Actually that is his only one good thing besides not being Hillary with a 30 years of nothing in gov't besides corruption,lies,and scandals.

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Puppylove
Both need to be torn down or it's doing more harm then good. With only one torn down, we have a bunch of divisive groups vying to be the new number 2 making the democratic party which has been taken over by Crony Capitalists pretty much completely unopposed.

What you and many others fail to realize is that Capitalism is based on cronyism, good ole boy systems, lobbyist for extremely powerful corporations that control the distribution of food, energy, information, money, EVERYTHING.

They have methods to deal with malcontents. Even in my small village the Cops have a Hummer with a gun mount on top. Black unmarked SUVs etc.

It's a brave new world.

Very confused, you seem to be suggesting capitalism is somehow new to America - could you give a date when it wasn't capitalist? I'm not knocking it, thing is very few countries are totally hard and fast on one ideology, but to use the phrase 'it's a brave new world' about capitalism in the US jars somewhat.

Old school capitalism has been dead since 1964. Replaced with a system called capitalism but completely divorced from "supply and demand" and replaced with unrestrained speculation. Learn even the basics of the "brave new world" and reap the results.

We're not in Kansas anymore....Toto

a reply to: olaru12

Trump is about to blow his top and take as many people as he can with him. All I wanna know is how orange he will get before he explodes....?

Isn't this exactly what we want?

Political outsider billionaire turns his back on the establishment and is now fighting them for the betterment of America.

Wtf is wrong with you people?

It's like your begging for your shackles.

a reply to: Bluntone22

Conservatives don't do revolutions. Trump is not a conservative, he is a revanchist and his supporters are reactionaries.

originally posted by: Darkmadness
Isn't this exactly what we want?

Political outsider billionaire turns his back on the establishment and is now fighting them for the betterment of America.

Wtf is wrong with you people?

It's like your begging for your shackles.

fighting for what ? Why would he fight a system that allows him to lose 1 billion $ and still live a luxurious lifestyle ? Who on earth would do that ?

a reply to: amicktd

First I don't watch CNN.
Second these are all my words .

Third you can tell yourself that the race is close but it's not.
He has lost already.

Look at a map of electrical votes. He doesn't have a chance.
Look at the polls. He's behind by insurmountable amounts.

You can say what you want about those indicators but that doesn't effect their validity.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Puppylove
Both need to be torn down or it's doing more harm then good. With only one torn down, we have a bunch of divisive groups vying to be the new number 2 making the democratic party which has been taken over by Crony Capitalists pretty much completely unopposed.

What you and many others fail to realize is that Capitalism is based on cronyism, good ole boy systems, lobbyist for extremely powerful corporations that control the distribution of food, energy, information, money, EVERYTHING.

They have methods to deal with malcontents. Even in my small village the Cops have a Hummer with a gun mount on top. Black unmarked SUVs etc.

It's a brave new world.

Very confused, you seem to be suggesting capitalism is somehow new to America - could you give a date when it wasn't capitalist? I'm not knocking it, thing is very few countries are totally hard and fast on one ideology, but to use the phrase 'it's a brave new world' about capitalism in the US jars somewhat.

Old school capitalism has been dead since 1964. Replaced with a system called capitalism but completely divorced for "supply and demand" and replaced with unrestrained speculation. Learn even the basics of the "brave new world" and reap the results.

We're not in Kansas anymore....Toto

I think that's more an opinion than anything, and are you attempting to tie it into the death of JFK? Why? His father mixed (to put it mildly) with mobsters and it's widely speculated they helped JFK win at least two states - or maybe mobsters are the actual true picture of capitalism in your view? Interesting thought, could be something in it.

originally posted by: Darkmadness
Isn't this exactly what we want?

Political outsider billionaire turns his back on the establishment and is now fighting them for the betterment of America.

Wtf is wrong with you people?

It's like your begging for your shackles.

what's wrong????......it's A LIE!!....that's what's wrong....trump fights for himself, not America.

It's been the plan all along to destroy the Republicans, it has worked also because they couldn't see the obvious.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
We should just stop pretending that he's got a path to the white house.
We should stop talking about what his presidency will be like because he's never going to get the chance to execute any of his plans.

The reality is it is over for Trump.

Why?

Because he talked about pussy and the establishment and msm now demand that everybody hate him?

Im still voting for him and i bet im not alone.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: olaru12
www.rawstory.com...

Apparently Trump wants to destroy the party that nominated him. I don't think this strategy will help his campaign much
I know it's popular among the extreme right but what will the reconstruction look like..... T party, Eagle forum, Freedom works, Heritage foundation?
Is there a plan?

Or will the ultimate party even be conservative. Trump has a propensity to flip flop on issues, say one thing then change his mind. And can extremism even have an influence on the more moderate electorate? Questions that need to be considered with a clarity of thought before embarking on the reorganization of a political party.

If the GOP destroys itself, that leaves only the dembs in power. And the Republicans can only blame themselves.

There is also that this threat will blow up in Trumps face and bring him down.

The Dems needs the same treatment. The only ones who don't see it that way are the corrupted politicians and blind followers. They all work for the same people and it sure isn't the American people.

Except for one thing....

The DNC is united, as an obscene amount of money, a political machine that knows how to run a winning campaign. They elected a Black man for president. Something I never thought we would see in America.

There you go again spewing those pesky "facts."

originally posted by: Urantia1111

Im still voting for him and i bet im not alone.

Why? Why are you voting for him?

Do you really think he can do the job of president?

a reply to: lostbook

Scorched earth is the term they're using.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
We should just stop pretending that he's got a path to the white house.
We should stop talking about what his presidency will be like because he's never going to get the chance to execute any of his plans.

The reality is it is over for Trump.

Yeah and some folk should stop pretending they know what they are talking about
And what you mean we , Willis ?

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: amicktd

First I don't watch CNN.

I doubt that!

Second these are all my words .

I guess that makes sense due to the fact that it makes no sense.

Third you can tell yourself that the race is close but it's not.
He has lost already.

Then why is the presidential race still going on?

Look at a map of electrical votes. He doesn't have a chance.

Should we look at the maps that Donald is winning or the maps you only like?

Look at the polls. He's behind by insurmountable amounts.

Which polls? Hell, I've seen polls where Trump is winning with 80+% of the vote, but that doesn't mean i parade it around as fact.

You can say what you want about those indicators but that doesn't effect their validity.

Same applies to you. The only difference is the things people can actually judge without numbers being manipulated. You can't manipulate the record crowds Trump brings. You can't manipulate the fact that every time the media and polls showed Trump was going to lose in the primaries was proven wrong. But, you can manipulate polls displayed by the media the DNC already colluded with and received millions in donations from.

originally posted by: Darkmadness
Isn't this exactly what we want?

Political outsider billionaire turns his back on the establishment and is now fighting them for the betterment of America.

Wtf is wrong with you people?

It's like your begging for your shackles.

if trump were to sock it to the elite, he'd ruin himself. who do you think stays in his hotels and condos, who do you think plays golf on his courses, the middle class??? LOL

wtf is wrong with you? what has he EVER done for the middle class? except stiffing contractors..

have you seen pictures of his homes?

trump's not going to do a thing to hurt his fortune, you're delusional!

a reply to: amicktd

Do you have any evidence that the DNC is paying any media group money to affect polls, or that polls have been compromised in any way?

The old "they said Trump did this ..." patter just reeks.

Trump's irrationality is on national display. The fact of the matter is, the average Trump rally is a microscopic part of the population of any of these areas. Most people have known for more than a year that Clinton beats Trump by every measure.

How much reality denial is too much?