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Love the Trump isn't competent remarks. You've gotta be pretty brain dead to call a successful property billionaire incompetent.
originally posted by: SmashnGrab
I'm sorry, I tried this in another forum last night but that forum was interested in making it a right vs left Hillary vs Donald debate. I have changed it some, added more parts. I don't want to police people to stay on topic. I barely received one on topic response, so I am posting this conspiracy here where I hope it will get some serious thought and commentary. What would be Putin's ultimate goal? What would he want to achieve? Would he blow us all up? Invade Europe? Please... think about it.
It is possible that we are in the midst of an incredible conspiracy unfolding. This could be the biggest conspiracy ever perpetrated on the American people. Trump may very well have been turned by Putin. I don't know if it's Melania, Ivanka, both, or money and greed, and possibly women or young girls thrown in with that. I am saying this for reasons beyond simply throwing mud at Trump. Think about this objectively for a minute.
Trump's rise to popularity seems aided by an unexplainable force. He has taken the United States by surprise. Seemingly effortlessly. Is there a secret guiding force to his genius? Could it be Putin standing behind the curtain of Oz?
I want you to talk about Putin's goals or his methods if this is true. But, I feel the need to convince you, so I will point out some things that made me wonder. Has anyone else had their suspicions about Trump and Putin?
Donald Trump is a man with a secret. That secret is buried in his tax returns. But, there are other little mysteries surrounding this man. Why would a guy who loves to spend other people's money be financing his own campaign? Why would a guy who says he is always telling us the truth lie about hiding his tax returns?
There are too many inconsistencies about Trump. We know that he is in debt to China for about $150 million and we know he has some loans from Russia, but we don't know how much- that is a closely guarded secret. We know he hates to pay his loans and will gladly partake in any deal to reduce his debts. He is proud of his ability to take advantage of people to make money. Most of his supporters call him smart for doing this.
We know Paul Manafort resigned from his "job" because of his ties to Putin's puppet government, and he was the recipient of dark money. We know that Paul was working free of charge, despite being one of the most expensive advisors and, being well connected to Russia, should not be on any nominee's presidential campaign staff.
We also know that Trump claimed both to know Putin, and then recently, not to know him. We know his daughter Ivanka vacationed recently with Putin's girlfriend. We know that at Trump's elite golf course in Dubai, Trump vacations with Russian dignitaries and Saudi royalty.
Maybe Trump found a "silent partner" to pay off his Chinese and Russian debt and to pay for his campaign.
Both Putin and Trump are nearing the end of their careers and they share together a desire to be in the White House. Perhaps Trump found a way, with a little help from his Russian dictator sponsor, to run for President. The idea is so simple and so bold and obvious that it is practically invisible! It seems too obvious to be true. Yet, we know that Putin does not respect Clinton. If Clinton is weaker, why is Putin helping the Republicans by hacking the DNC? It would seem that he is placing a lot of trust in a man who claims to be a very tough negotiator. That might indicate there is cooperation between Putin and Trump.
Trump could easily make a deal to share the Top Secret Presidential briefings that he gets as one of the major party nominees. That would go a long way to paying off some of that debt. This information alone could reveal the most guarded secrets of our highest levels of intelligence. Entire networks could collapse based off such high level information.
I find it interesting that Putin would choose to interfere in our elections at this stage in his life. I don't think he would gamble with the possibility of US retaliation, something which could hurt his legacy if there was not a good possibility of great reward. We don't know when this started. Maybe Melania is a honey pot and led him down this shadowy path. Maybe it started with his big loan from China, or sometime in Dubai he was blackmailed? It is hard to know because Trump is guarding details of his possible conflicts of interests. But I don't see Putin as a gambler when it comes to foreign politics. I think he has an arrangement with Trump. Hard to believe Trump would casually ask Russia to hack the DNC and it happens "coincidentally" ...often he is telling the truth even when he jokes.
I am not saying this to smear him. So please do not make this about Hillary in return. There are thousands of places to talk about Hillary's conspiracy theories. Let's discuss a possible Trump conspiracy of the highest order.
edit on 9-10-2016 by SmashnGrab because: Clarity and grammar
originally posted by: frenchfries
back on ATS again... Just to hear something different than MSM... no luck the same humdrum..
Yes trump is a russian spy
And he also got pegged by hillary
Julian Assange told me...
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: SmashnGrab
a reply to: ressiv
What do you think Putin do if he had control of our President? Would he want to take over Europe? Or would he want to make the US more like Russia??
He would absorb the rest of Ukraine and the Baltic states, then go to war with Iran over Central Asia and the Gulf. He would also expand Russian arms sales into markets currently dominated by the United States. He would continue to encourage factionalism in the United States to prevent it from rallying behind strong leadership that is willing to confront him. You don't need to be an intelligence analyst to see that.
Trump's rise to popularity seems aided by an unexplainable force.