Trump campaign admits Obama born in the USA.

originally posted by: MongolianPaellaFish
This is a humiliating flip-flop for Trump, but it really was inevitable.

This is a distraction put out by Clinton to get off the front page of the news and nothing more. if Clinton was not desperate they wouldn't need to drag up an issues from 8 years ago that a member of the Clinton campaign origionally started.

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: MongolianPaellaFish
This is a humiliating flip-flop for Trump, but it really was inevitable.

This is a distraction put out by Clinton to get off the front page of the news and nothing more. if Clinton was not desperate they wouldn't need to drag up an issues from 8 years ago that a member of the Clinton campaign origionally started.

Exactly. Obama and DNC have disgraced Americans again by assisting ISIS in Syria yet again. While these baffoons in the media have the sheeple focused on the 8 year birther non event. Who cares about WW3. What a joke.

US is defending ISIS’: Russia convenes UNSC meeting after US coalition strike on Syrian army

a reply to: Doctor Smith

Yeah the US is not defending ISIS but tanks for proving my point about bs distractions.

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: MongolianPaellaFish
This is a humiliating flip-flop for Trump, but it really was inevitable.

This is a distraction put out by Clinton

But it wasn't put out by Clinton, it was put out by Trump's own campaign manager!

a reply to: Steak

Agreed, and he also carried Kenyan citizenship until he was 23.

There is technical truth to what you say, however, it has no relevance what-so-ever to the fact that President Obama is, but virtue of his birth in America, a Natural Born Citizen.

Dual citizenship, or potential dual citizenship (Obama's Kenyan citizenship was only ever 'potential') is irrelevant. All that is relevant is the nature of his American Citizenship. End of Story.

originally posted by: MongolianPaellaFish

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: MongolianPaellaFish
This is a humiliating flip-flop for Trump, but it really was inevitable.

This is a distraction put out by Clinton

But it wasn't put out by Clinton, it was put out by Trump's own campaign manager!

No it was Clintons staff -


Hillary Clinton Campaign Manager Admits 2008 Birther Link

Patti Solis Doyle, who was Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager in 2008 until the Iowa caucuses, admitted on Friday that a Clinton campaign staffer had, in fact, circulated the Birther conspiracy theory that Barack Obama was born outside the U.S. and therefore potentially ineligible to serve in the presidency.

Doyle made the admission on Twitter, as she responded to former George W. Bush spokesman Ari Fleischer. Fleischer said that Clinton’s staff had spread the rumor. Doyle said that was a “lie” — but admitted, in the same tweet, that she had fired the “rogue” staffer who had used email to spread the Birther conspiracy theory.

Doyle appeared about an hour later on CNN with Wolf Blitzer to address the issue once again. She denied that Hillary Clinton had started the Birther theory — then admitted that someone in the Clinton campaign had, in fact, been involved. Here is part their exchange:

Blitzer: Someone supporting Hillary Clinton was trying to promote this so-called Birther issue? What happened?

Doyle: So we — absolutely, the campaign nor Hillary did not start the Birther movement, period, end of story there. There was a volunteer coordinator, I believe, in late 2007, I believe, in December, one of our volunteer coordinators in one of the counties in Iowa — I don’t recall whether they were an actual paid staffer, but they did forward an email that promoted the conspiracy.

Blitzer: The Birther conspiracy?

Doyle: Yeah, Hillary made the decision immediately to let that person go. We let that person go. And it was so, beyond the pale, Wolf, and so not worthy of the kind of campaign that certainly Hillary wanted to run.

Doyle went on to relate how she personally called Obama campaign manager David Plouffe to apologize, and he accepted. Blitzer then asked her about the Mark Penn memorandum, in which the campaign’s strategist proposed exploiting Obama’s “lack of American roots.” Doyle asserted, and Blitzer agreed, that the memo had nothing to do with Birtherism.

click link for article.....


Former DC Bureau Chief: Clinton Surrogate Pitched Me ‘Birther’ Story In 2008

a reply to: Steak

And further to prove my point -

Obama in Africa: I'm Proud To Be First Kenyan-American President

Why can't the people of Kenya be proud of a Kenyan-American president?

John Fitzgerald Kennedy was an Irish-American. He and his entire family were proud to identify as Irish-Americans.

Spiro T. Agnew was a Greek-American. He and his entire family were proud to identify as Greco-Americans.

Furthermore, both were Natural Born Citizens and eligible to be President of the United States.

JFK was not how-ever a dual citizen of Ireland and the USA, Spiro T. Agnew was definitely a dual citizen of both Greece and the USA.

The difference is that GREEK law passes citizenship to foreign born children of Greek emigres down to grandchildren even though they have never stepped foot in Greece nor taken any overt action to accept Greek citizenship. Ireland does not do that.

The nature of Greek law on the subject has no influence on American law. The American Constitution says 'any person born in the United States is a citizen of the United States' (and born a citizen is the definition of Natural Born Citizen). Period. (the jurisdiction exception means children of foreign diplomats and invading armies are not citizens). What Greek law says about the matter is irrelevant to American law.

The "birther" question about Obama is not whether or not he identifies as Kenyan-American or not. It is whether or not he is a Natural Born Citizen. That question has been answered again and again and again and again: yes he is. What UK Colonial law or Kenyan National law says about the matter is irrelevant to American law.

Whether somebody identifies as Kenyan-American or African-American or Irish-American or Greek-American or Chinese-American has nothing to do with national citizenship - it has to do with respecting one's roots and honoring one's ancestors.

The Bible says it this way: 'honor thy Father and Mother'.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

If you want an example of the transparency of this administration, try to find a video of the obama vs. keyes debate when obama was running for the senate in Illinois. The one when Keyes said, "You aren't even a US citizen." And obama, who had an opportunity to make a fool out of his opponent by proving his citizenship chose to say, "What difference does it make? I am running for the senate, not the presidency." THAT was the beginning of the birther movement.

No mystery or conspiracy here: The reason you can't find that video is because it never existed and the conversation never took place.

Keyes never said that to Obama, and Obama never said that to Keyes.

originally posted by: rnaa
a reply to: Vroomfondel

If you want an example of the transparency of this administration, try to find a video of the obama vs. keyes debate when obama was running for the senate in Illinois. The one when Keyes said, "You aren't even a US citizen." And obama, who had an opportunity to make a fool out of his opponent by proving his citizenship chose to say, "What difference does it make? I am running for the senate, not the presidency." THAT was the beginning of the birther movement.

No mystery or conspiracy here: The reason you can't find that video is because it never existed and the conversation never took place.

Keyes never said that to Obama, and Obama never said that to Keyes.

You don't actually know that though. You just say it because you are "fighting for your hero Obama" Perhaps you hope he finds out and rewards you? I hear he pays very good.
I remember this issue and the video footage from a ways back, before Obama's handlers and the NSA policy police went in with there cleanup crews and shoulder strikers.
Obama has often said things that have turned up later and made him out to be a real goof up. This situation is just more of the same.
It is very difficult to keep track of all the times he has had to have those "cleanup crews" go in and expunge so many goof ups from the public record that it leaves no question at all that he is a "made man" A manufactured device. The NSA is his gate keeper.

originally posted by: MongolianPaellaFish

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: MongolianPaellaFish
This is a humiliating flip-flop for Trump, but it really was inevitable.

This is a distraction put out by Clinton

But it wasn't put out by Clinton, it was put out by Trump's own campaign manager!

Was it? Because I'm under the impression that the birther issue coming up now was entirely a new narrative being rolled out from the DNC starting with Hillary's tweets then followed up by the Washington post article claiming that Trump drummed it up but only citing a poll. Trump thoroughly reversed the narrative by trolling the media and then shining light on the fact that it originated with the Clinton campaign in 2008 in the first place. Backfired narrative. Now they are are resorting to pepe the frog. It's pretty lame if you ask me.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
Obama has often said things that have turned up later and made him out to be a real goof up.

Examples please. Unless....

It is very difficult to keep track of all the times he has had to have those "cleanup crews" go in and expunge so many goof ups from the public record that it leaves no question at all that he is a "made man" A manufactured device.

Here we have a bad case of Obama Derangement Syndrome!

No evidence, no facts - just another silly claim about President Obama.

originally posted by: mkultra11
Backfired narrative.

Except it backfired on Trump, as he claimed he had sent people to investigate Obama in Hawaii....

That's according to Trump himself, who, in an interview with NBC, warned his investigators just might uncover "one of the greatest cons in the history of politics and beyond."
"I have people that have been studying it and they cannot believe what they're finding," Trump said an interview that aired Thursday Morning.
Asked if he has assigned people specifically to search in Hawaii, Trump said, "Absolutely."

politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...

It turned out that "they cannot believe what they're finding,".... was simply Obama was born in Hawaii!

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
Obama has often said things that have turned up later and made him out to be a real goof up.

Examples please. Unless....

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I would rather watch you continue to delude yourself that everything anyone says about your King Obama is just "Silly" It is quite entertaining. Obama is your perfect example of human perfection who respects all our laws and isn't really spending millions every week on vacations and personal chefs and servants for Michelle. More silly lies made up by people who have Obama derangement syndrome.

Barack and Michelle Obama are slave-owners lecturing their slaves about slavery. Her moral authority to enslave Americans is based on a slavery that took place 150 years ago. And Michelle and Barack are the tip of a very large institution which is built on depriving Americans of their political and economic freedoms.

Slavery was based on the notion that some people are superior to others. That same idea runs through Obama’s speeches. It is the lifeblood of the twisted thing that the left has turned liberalism into.

The Obamas have the right to enslave us because they are on “the right side of history”. They can exploit us because they know what is better for us. They can take the work of our hands from us because we didn’t build that, they and all the rest of our government masters did the real building.

As the Democrats continue their circus of hate in Philly, it ought to be remembered that this was where Thomas Jefferson wrote that “Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness” were inalienable rights and that governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed. Governments do not gain their authority from any innate superiority, but from consent. The Obama theory that government gains power in proportion to its historical moral superiority is slavery wrapped in hypocrisy. The attempt to perpetuate a new slavery by invoking 19th century slavery, as Michelle Obama did, is a moral obscenity.

It is time to end slavery all over again. It is time to free Michelle Obama’s taxpaying slaves.

The first step to ending slavery is to recognize its fundamental injustice. It is unjust that a working family ought to work its fingers to the bone so that Michelle Obama can enjoy yet another sightseeing tour. It is unjust that a class of parasites claiming to be public servants can draw unlimited amounts of money on the credit of people trying to make ends meet. It is unjust that Michelle Obama can own hundreds of millions of people as slaves. You don't mind it though, perhaps because you are so used to it.

Trump see's through this though, and is too smart to fall for the MSM trap set for him by Obama media enabler bafoons.

a reply to: hellobruce

You are posting something from 5 years ago. I made it clear that I was talking about who brought it into the discussion now. And yes it did backfire.

originally posted by: mkultra11
And yes it did backfire.

It certainly did backfire....

But on Trump!

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

It is unjust that Michelle Obama can own hundreds of millions of people as slaves.

What are you babbling about?

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: mkultra11
And yes it did backfire.

It certainly did backfire....

But on Trump!

If you can't understand my initial post, there's no use continuing thus discussion. But if you think that Trump saying obama was born in the US at his recent press conference is a backfire against trump, its not. Its a fail of the msm and the DNc bc he didn't double down lime they expected and he put the focus on the fact that it initially came out of Hillary's campaign. On top of that he trolled their narrative.

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

It is unjust that Michelle Obama can own hundreds of millions of people as slaves.

What are you babbling about?

It appears you usually don't comprehend anyone here, and this is no different. And so, there is no point telling you anything since you will just be confused.

a reply to: hellobruce

More likely it was never there, as it did not happen!

Do you have anything to add other than opinion and denial?

So show us a copy of the paper....

Scrubbed from the internet... what part of that confuses you?

So it happened at the same time as something that never happened....

Do you have anything to add other than opinion and denial?

Have you actually listened to her words?

Yes. Have you?

All you do is deny and treat opinion as fact, when it is your opinion. When it is someone else's they must be lying if it doesn't fit your agenda. If you can justify any opinion without proof including your own, you must justify all opinion without proof. Your opinions are no more concrete than anyone else's.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

It is unjust that Michelle Obama can own hundreds of millions of people as slaves.

What are you babbling about?

It appears you usually don't comprehend anyone here, and this is no different. And so, there is no point telling you anything since you will just be confused.

Well said.