Were the Jews Expecting the Son of God?

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Akragon

While we're waiting for an answer.......

He will be a great leader on the political and military scene of the world...

Could it be?????

Sorry, I couldn't help myself!

This post is a clear example of Windys attitude, both hostile and belittling, off topic musings of a person who is not sincere

This is why Windy doesnt deserve a valid reply Mr Cox

a reply to: Raggedyman

Pretty sure he was asking about jewish scripture, not the Christian interpretation of it

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Raggedyman

Pretty sure he was asking about jewish scripture, not the Christian interpretation of it

Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Raggedyman

Pretty sure he was asking about jewish scripture, not the Christian interpretation of it

Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Yeah i saw it the first time you posted it... that passage wasn't ever supposed to be a prophecy about their messiah...

Further more, No one ever called Jesus Immanuel... or God with us

So your point is moot

originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Raggedyman

Pretty sure he was asking about jewish scripture, not the Christian interpretation of it

Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Yeah i saw it the first time you posted it... that passage wasn't ever supposed to be a prophecy about their messiah...

Further more, No one ever called Jesus Immanuel... or God with us

So your point is moot

I suppose then we have a bunch of mothers naming their son Immanuel in hopes of having the real messiah, right? Was he also to have Wonderful Counselor, The Prince of Peace, perhaps as a middle name?

For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government shall be upon His shoulder. And His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

a reply to: zosimov

I suppose then we have a bunch of mothers naming their son Immanuel in hopes of having the real messiah, right?

perhaps in the modern Christian mind... not in reality

Was he also to have Wonderful Counselor, The Prince of Peace, perhaps as a middle name?

No... again, this passage wasn't ever supposed to be a prophecy about their messiah... Christianity took this passage and twisted it to mean what they wanted...

Unfortunately, he wasn't EVER called any of those names... Not even Mighty God until many many years later

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: zosimov

I suppose then we have a bunch of mothers naming their son Immanuel in hopes of having the real messiah, right?

perhaps in the modern Christian mind... not in reality

Was he also to have Wonderful Counselor, The Prince of Peace, perhaps as a middle name?

No... again, this passage wasn't ever supposed to be a prophecy about their messiah... Christianity took this passage and twisted it to mean what they wanted...

Unfortunately, he wasn't EVER called any of those names... Not even Mighty God until many many years later

Oh sorry, you were there?

a reply to: Raggedyman

Please answer Windys question if you have the answer

The question was aimed at you, not the OP. So far you still haven't provided any Old Testament scripture that confirms your assertion, that Jesus fulfilled Hebrew expectation of their Messiah.

BTW, the video accurately portrays a modern concept of the biblical Messiah.

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: zosimov

I suppose then we have a bunch of mothers naming their son Immanuel in hopes of having the real messiah, right?

perhaps in the modern Christian mind... not in reality

Was he also to have Wonderful Counselor, The Prince of Peace, perhaps as a middle name?

No... again, this passage wasn't ever supposed to be a prophecy about their messiah... Christianity took this passage and twisted it to mean what they wanted...

Unfortunately, he wasn't EVER called any of those names... Not even Mighty God until many many years later

No... but unlike some people, and many, IF not most Christians...

I know scripture

originally posted by: Akragon
No... but unlike some people, and many, IF not most Christians...

I know scripture

Ad hominem but no substance..?

originally posted by: Akragon
No... but unlike some people, and many, IF not most Christians...

I know scripture

So who do you propose fulfilled that particular prophesy?

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon
No... but unlike some people, and many, IF not most Christians...

I know scripture

Ad hominem but no substance..?

Why assume i was speaking of You...

thats called a blanket statement, and for the most part its true... and so were my previous statements

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon
No... but unlike some people, and many, IF not most Christians...

I know scripture

So who do you propose fulfilled that particular prophesy?

it wasn't a prophecy...

read the chapter instead of taking one verse out of context

originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon
No... but unlike some people, and many, IF not most Christians...

I know scripture

Ad hominem but no substance..?

Why assume i was speaking of You...

thats called a blanket statement, and for the most part its true... and so were my previous statements

For the most part, perhaps, but not that part about the Messiah.

originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon
No... but unlike some people, and many, IF not most Christians...

I know scripture

So who do you propose fulfilled that particular prophesy?

it wasn't a prophecy...

read the chapter instead of taking one verse out of context

Then why the future tense?

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon
No... but unlike some people, and many, IF not most Christians...

I know scripture

Ad hominem but no substance..?

Why assume i was speaking of You...

thats called a blanket statement, and for the most part its true... and so were my previous statements

For the most part, perhaps, but not that part about the Messiah.

no that was also correct...

and as i said in my first post... the OP is looking for jewish scripture, not the Christian interpretation of it...

why do i have to keep repeating myself here

originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon
No... but unlike some people, and many, IF not most Christians...

I know scripture

Ad hominem but no substance..?

Why assume i was speaking of You...

thats called a blanket statement, and for the most part its true... and so were my previous statements

For the most part, perhaps, but not that part about the Messiah.

no that was also correct...

and as i said in my first post... the OP is looking for jewish scripture, not the Christian interpretation of it...

why do i have to keep repeating myself here

but they're the same scripture.. it's the same book!

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Akragon
No... but unlike some people, and many, IF not most Christians...

I know scripture

So who do you propose fulfilled that particular prophesy?

it wasn't a prophecy...

read the chapter instead of taking one verse out of context

Then why the future tense?

read.... the... Chapter