Hillary Medical Records about to be leaked?? - Unconfirmed

a reply to: texasgirl

Interesting! It's not the same story as this 'medical records' release, but still interesting in light of IAMTAT's link from earlier!

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originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: texasgirl

Interesting! It's not the same story as this 'medical records' release, but still interesting in light of IAMTAT's link from earlier!

Yes, they don't even touch on the death of Vincent Fleck, which is now all over the internet.

a reply to: texasgirl

Well if snopes is "getting it wrong", that means something is surfacing !!

Tangents and disinfo are often used to make people believe something other than the real thing.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: texasgirl

Well if snopes is "getting it wrong", that means something is surfacing !!

Tangents and disinfo are often used to make people believe something other than the real thing.

I'm waiting for them to correct it, LOL.

Why is Kim LaCapria always the one to report on the DNC or Clinton rumors?

originally posted by: texasgirl
originally posted by: xuenchen

Why is Kim LaCapria always the one to report on the DNC or Clinton rumors?

Just because

Hasson alleged that her posts at Inquisitr, her former employer, “consistently displayed clear partisanship.”

Glad I could help

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Was THIS who originated the documents?
twitter.com...

I think that's just a retweet?

Vincent Fleck did have a son named Daniel.

I was shocked to hear the news. Vince was a regular at my gym and we often talked about many things. He was always kind and interested in what I had to say. His pride in Dan and Jocelyn was very clear. I will miss him.

www.legacy.com...

So...why didn't Dr. Daniel Fleck tell Snopes his father had died when they asked him?

Could there be TWO sets of Father & Son, Vincent & Daniel Flecks in Ossining, N.Y.?
Seems unlikely.

a reply to: texasgirl

I had looked at Snopes earlier and thought the same thing. They disproved the wrong thing. They seem to do that pretty often. I think it's for people who don't actually read or digest what they read. They see the title, and the big "False" and consider it done.

One other thing I notice that they did not debunk - they did not say that Dr. Daniel Fleck is not Clinton's doctor. I think that would be the easiest way to call it False, but they don't do that. So, it would seem likely he is really her doctor.

I'm still not sure about this report of the father's death though.
From the sources that talk about how the story originated, it seemed to start with:
Father Of Doctor Treating Hillary Clinton For Dementia Mysteriously Dies
"By: Sorcha Faal"

The story itself seems so over the top. How would anyone be able to recognize a CIA "hit team", and how would they be "known"? The rest of the story just gets more outrageous.

Then there is Vincent, who apparent died while swimming in a competition. People noticed he was distressed and tried to rescue him. It seems like a public incident, unlike the other mysterious deaths.

A 69-year-old man died while competing in a Long Island triathlon Sunday, police said.

Vincent Fleck, a Westchester County man, was in the middle of the 500-meter swim portion of the Smith Point Sprint Triathlon in Narrow Bay when a lifeguard noticed he was in distress, police said. The swim was the first portion of the event.

A lifeguard took Fleck by canoe to a fire department rescue boat around 7:25 a.m., police said. An EMT began emergency first aid and Fleck was taken to Brookhaven Memorial Hospital Medical Center.

69-year-old man dies during Long Island triathlon

The timing does seem coincidental, but the tweets were Monday August 8. He died on Sunday August 7. The article claims it was some kind of dead man's switch release.

My theory as of now (subject to change if there is additional evidence) - I think Vincent died accidentally, and someone decided to use this opportunity to leak some fake documents and make a story out of it.

originally posted by: Byrd
There was a news report saying that it originates from Sorcha Faal.

Now... you may not be as familiar with SF as the rest of us, but "Sorcha" is not actually a Russian woman, but one David Booth, a source known for making things up Snopes did a "connect the dots", which is confirmed checking dates on the release of the stories.

Yes, that's the logical conclusion.

Sorcha Faal, or someone he is working with, took advantage of a man's death to fabricate this whole thing.

originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: texasgirl

One other thing I notice that they did not debunk - they did not say that Dr. Daniel Fleck is not Clinton's doctor. I think that would be the easiest way to call it False, but they don't do that. So, it would seem likely he is really her doctor.

She (like I) may be seeing a GP as well as a specialist for her thyroid.

Lisa Baradack is the physican who released the 2015 health report

Now...there is a physician (who isn't seeing Clinton as a patient and who is using youtube videos) behind some of these wild claims. I also note that there's an osteopath who is making claims as well.

HOWEVER... none of these people are seeing her clinically. We could take footage of you at various times of the day (forgetting things, stumbling, being surprised and shocked, slipping on wet surface, etc, etc) and put out a montage that said you have Parkinsons and dementia and a lot of other things.

And Snopes did actually debunk it...

However, all the rest of the story about a CIA "hit team" finding a "dead man’s switch" on Vincent Fleck's computer is a fabrication, as is the claim about Dr. Daniel Fleck's treating Hillary Clinton for dementia. (It's rather unlikely a physical therapist with a regular practice specializing in sports injuries would be furtively treating a high-profile politician campaigning throughout the country for dementia.)

originally posted by: BlueAjah
Sorcha Faal, or someone he is working with, took advantage of a man's death to fabricate this whole thing.

I vaguely recall that there was a "move to hoax bin" at one time for material originating with Sorcha Faal (it was the policy of another board that I was a member of.)

a reply to: Byrd

Agreed!

I do think that the claims of Clinton's health issues have been exaggerated, as I mentioned in some of the other threads directly related to her health. I think she is older and tired and probably has some issues that anyone her age has, but I don't think its dementia, seizures, etc.

I think that she acts goofy sometimes, but I think it is a lack of ability to interact with others or trying to be funny.

There is enough corruption surrounding Clinton. We don't need manufactured scandals. These are just distractions from the real issues.

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: texasgirl

One other thing I notice that they did not debunk - they did not say that Dr. Daniel Fleck is not Clinton's doctor. I think that would be the easiest way to call it False, but they don't do that. So, it would seem likely he is really her doctor.

She (like I) may be seeing a GP as well as a specialist for her thyroid.

Lisa Baradack is the physican who released the 2015 health report

Now...there is a physician (who isn't seeing Clinton as a patient and who is using youtube videos) behind some of these wild claims. I also note that there's an osteopath who is making claims as well.

HOWEVER... none of these people are seeing her clinically. We could take footage of you at various times of the day (forgetting things, stumbling, being surprised and shocked, slipping on wet surface, etc, etc) and put out a montage that said you have Parkinsons and dementia and a lot of other things.

And Snopes did actually debunk it...

However, all the rest of the story about a CIA "hit team" finding a "dead man’s switch" on Vincent Fleck's computer is a fabrication, as is the claim about Dr. Daniel Fleck's treating Hillary Clinton for dementia. (It's rather unlikely a physical therapist with a regular practice specializing in sports injuries would be furtively treating a high-profile politician campaigning throughout the country for dementia.)

Yes, I see they changed it. Just like I said they would. What is interesting, however, is that they changed their tone in the article. Whereas it was originally condescending with words like "ridiculous" and "outrageous", it is now very professional. It also removed the sentence that Daniel Fleck was Lisa Bardeck's father.

So, originally they printed the wrong information.

a reply to: BlueAjah

I agree that I think her health issues are mostly exaggerated but I am concerned about Huma's claim that Hillary is "often confused".

That part bothers me.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

So I see you(and other members) are grasping at straws... One day away from here and wow, total mayhem.

Either way, from what I take about the accusations of fabricating the leak it seems that you're implying that I'm some sort of shill. That is certainly interesting since it seems that you're reaching a conclusion based on the premise of the making of this thread, but at the same time you're neglecting other pertinent information required for said conclusion.

I'll explain. You disregard my post history, in which if you take a look you'll accurately see that in no means I make unsubstantiated claims. Quite the contrary I may add, since most of my posts go unanswered due to the thorough logical structure with legal backing and no clear straw man.

Here lies the fault with this thread, due to the nature of developing information some goes unconfirmed at the time giving a clear straw man, but the value it could have if it were confirmed has priority in my understanding. Ergo, I posted a twitter feed I found investigating other things and if you can clearly see, the person who did the reports is not very well versed. I find it quite disrespectful that you and other members can think I would make such a sub-par document.

I thank elouina for sticking out for me, you didn't have to.

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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: texasgirl
originally posted by: xuenchen

Why is Kim LaCapria always the one to report on the DNC or Clinton rumors?

Just because

Hasson alleged that her posts at Inquisitr, her former employer, “consistently displayed clear partisanship.”

How interesting. Thanks for that!

a reply to: texasgirl

That's what I saw the first time I looked at the snopes article too.
There was no mention of Fleck not being Clinton's doctor in the earlier version.
And it did say that there were reports that Daniel Fleck was Lisa Bardeck's father, which I had not seen anyplace.
They changed the article quite a bit.

The thing I am concerned about is this, these documents will now be linked with discussions about Hillary's health. That is a legitimate topic of concern and now that aspect of the situation has a taint.

The obvious forgery of the head scan makes this seem like a disinfo campaign wherein purposely posted false information about a topic is laid down ahead of time prior to real information getting 'in to the wild' as it were so that that real information is overshadowed by the false.

The fake head scan immediately calls the other 'medical records' into question.

If I had made this OP, I would have subsequently asked that it be moved to the hoax bin or LOL; but that's just me.