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originally posted by: derfreebie
originally posted by: stosh64
a reply to: 727Sky
His speech fees doubled and tripled when she became SOS.
Not to mention her speeches to wall street bankers.
If Trump uses even a quarter of the already admitted-to
cannon fodder available during the two debates-- it'll make
how Kennedy stomped Nixon in 1960 look like like a waltz.
The pantsuit might be teflon but the mud's mounting up
to roll over her like a wet California spring now. Glad I'm not her.
originally posted by: ColCurious
a reply to: Gin
S&F!
Piece by piece the truth comes to light...
Not the first time... nor will it be the last time that the U.S. is protecting radical islamists.
Same thing happened with groups like Jaysh al-Islam and Ahrar al-Sham.
Although they openly state their goal to create an Islamic state under Sharia law, the U.S. vehemently blocks them from being designated as a terrorist organization on the UN-list!
Look it up! Wake up Americans... you are the bad guys here!!
originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Well given all the conspiracy theorists wild imagination's, at least when she becomes president we'll all be right!
I mean....what's the worst that could happen? Right?!
originally posted by: moebius
Boko Haram has been designated by the USA as a terrorist organization in 2013. The kidnapping happened 2014. The Nigerian government has been against this designation.
Why exactly should Clinton be responsible? Is the secretary of state of the USA in charge of governing Nigeria?
The UN and Australia designated Boko Haram as a terrorist organization in 2014 after the kidnapping happened. Following your logic, shouldn't they be blamed for it? It happened on their watch.
We also now know that the Obama administration was sitting on intelligence -- obtained as a result of the Bin Laden raid
originally posted by: Gin
Hillary Obstructed Boko Haram's Terror Designation as Her Donors Cashed In
An important two-part investigative series by WORLD magazine reporters Mindy Belz and J.C. Derrick provides some insight:
Belz and Derrick discovered that Hillary Clinton's obstruction of the Boko Haram designation, and the continuing chaos in northern Nigeria -- Africa's largest economy and the 10th largest oil producer in the world -- directly benefited Clinton Global Initiative donors and a close Clinton confidante who bundled campaign cash for Hillary.
No wonder USA had a zero stance against Boko Haram.
We also now know that the Obama administration was sitting on intelligence -- obtained as a result of the Bin Laden raid -- that revealed Boko Haram's direct connection to al-Qaeda and the international terror network in 2011 and 2012. In other words, Hillary's State Department was arguing that Boko Haram had no such connections, that it wasn't a transnational terror threat, even though the Obama administration -- and likely Clinton herself -- knew that was false.
On page two the article goes on about all of Hillary Clinton's donor's from Nigeria forced her to keep it off the terrorist list and how some of them also smuggle heroin into America.
originally posted by: Gin
Hillary Obstructed Boko Haram's Terror Designation as Her Donors Cashed In
An important two-part investigative series by WORLD magazine reporters Mindy Belz and J.C. Derrick provides some insight:
Belz and Derrick discovered that Hillary Clinton's obstruction of the Boko Haram designation, and the continuing chaos in northern Nigeria -- Africa's largest economy and the 10th largest oil producer in the world -- directly benefited Clinton Global Initiative donors and a close Clinton confidante who bundled campaign cash for Hillary.
No wonder USA had a zero stance against Boko Haram.
We also now know that the Obama administration was sitting on intelligence -- obtained as a result of the Bin Laden raid -- that revealed Boko Haram's direct connection to al-Qaeda and the international terror network in 2011 and 2012. In other words, Hillary's State Department was arguing that Boko Haram had no such connections, that it wasn't a transnational terror threat, even though the Obama administration -- and likely Clinton herself -- knew that was false.
On page two the article goes on about all of Hillary Clinton's donor's from Nigeria forced her to keep it off the terrorist list and how some of them also smuggle heroin into America.
Wash. Post: “No Evidence That Clinton Played A Role Or ‘Fought’ To Keep Boko Haram Off The List” Or “That A Terrorist Designation Any Sooner Would Have Prevented” The Mass Kidnappings.
Washington Post fact-checkers Glenn Kessler and Michelle Ye Hee Lee wrote that “Christie grossly simplifie[d] a complex debate at the State Department -- which actually did not involve Clinton personally.”
The Fact Checker blog noted that State Department officials conceded they could have moved faster with Boko Haram’s designation, but that “there is no evidence that Clinton played a role” and that there is also “no evidence” that the terrorist designation “any sooner would have prevented the kidnapping of the girls.” The fact check also pointed out that the hashtag campaign “came after Clinton had left the State Department.”
From the July 19 article:
Christie grossly simplifies a complex debate at the State Department — which actually did not involve Clinton personally.
In 2014, the Fact Checker closely examined this issue, concluding that claims that Clinton was responsible for the decision betrays a misunderstanding of how the State Department works. Yes, Clinton was secretary of state in 2012. Designations of foreign terrorist groups are ultimately issued by the secretary of state. But the decision on how to handle the group was resolved before it ever reached her level, according to officials familiar with the deliberations.
State Department officials in 2012 vigorously debated how to treat Boko Haram, with the Bureau of Counterterrorism, headed then by Assistant Secretary Daniel Benjamin, leaning toward designation, and the Africa bureau, headed then by Assistant Secretary Johnnie Carson, urging caution. One big issue was that Nigeria was a government close to the United States — and Nigeria was adamantly opposed to the designation, arguing it risked entrenching Boko Haram. Nigerian officials also argued that a terrorist designation — which halts any flow of funds to the entity or people associated with it — would make it difficult for humanitarian aid to continue in the region where Boko Haram operated.
There was another, complicating issue: U.S. officials thought the Nigerian army had engaged in brutal human rights abuses in its efforts to fight Boko Haram. So a compromise was reached internally: The administration would name three leaders of Boko Haram as specially designated global terrorists while holding out the possibly of a broader designation of the entire group as a means of improving the behavior of Nigerian forces battling Boko Haram.
In any case, in 2013, the State Department formally designated Boko Haram as a foreign terrorist organization. Officials later conceded that, in retrospect, they could have moved a bit faster, but there is no evidence that Clinton played a role or “fought” to keep Boko Haram off the list. The internal debate did not rise to her level; it was handled by the deputy secretary of state.
There is no evidence that a terrorist designation any sooner would have prevented the kidnapping of the girls. As for the hashtag campaign, that came after Clinton had left the State Department. [The Washington Post, 7/19/16]
originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: xuenchen
I see. So facts DON'T matter, just the leaning of who delivers them. Did you even read it or do you just want to debunk it with a one liner?