Michael Moore: "Trump Is Going To Win"

I present this for entertainment reasons only, because this is, perhaps, the first time I've ever agreed with Michael Moore.

To those on ATS who follow this buffoon regularly...and agree with everything he says...'Food For Thought'?

On a special online broadcast of 'RealTime With Bill Maher' on Wednesday, filmmaker Michael Moore predicts that Donald Trump will win the 2016 election by carrying all of the states Mitt Romney won in 2012, plus Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania and his home state of Michigan.

"I think one of the things I've been concerned about this week is... that we're sitting in our bubble having a good laugh at this sh*tshow, as you say, of a [Republican National Convention], but the truth is that this plays to a lot of people that he has to win to become the next president," Moore said.


"I'm sorry to be the buzzkill here," he said. "But I think Trump is going to win. I'm sorry."

"I lived in Michigan, an let me tell you. It's gonna be the Brexit strategy. The middle of England is Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Mitt Romney lost by 64 electoral votes. The total number of electoral votes in those states in the rust belt, 64. All he has to do is win those four states. I was there during the primary, he went down and said they moved this factory down to Mexico, I'm putting a tariff on the cars, and it was music to peoples' ears," he added.

"And more people in the primary in Michigan voted Republican than Democrat this year. That should be a disturbing thing for everyone."

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Youd be surprised what Michael Moore has gotten right over the years.

I dont agree much with the guy either... However those 28 missing pages from the 9/11 report fully vindicate accusations Moore made in his film Fahrenheit 9/11 against the saudis and "bandar bush".


So whether you buy into his politics, his observation skills are keen. He sees a movement from trump, and sees people who would rather sit on their hands from the dems

a reply to: IAMTAT

I disagree; Trump is not Mitt Romney. We still have a couple of months before the undecided make up their minds.

Michael Moore is the penultimate dumb*** looking to make money by doing and saying anything. Whether it is true or not. Wonder how much he was fronted for that statement ?
Everything that spews forth from this person's mouth is bull****

Ah, Michael Moore, the guy who loathes capitalism even while it makes him rich.

I will say this year is so far beyond the ability of the norm to predict. The much vaunted Nate Silver has made seven predictions concerning Trump and gotten none of them right.

I think Moore uses rational reasons for making his decision.

In Pennsylvania, there were 71 delegates. Only 17 were bound to vote for Trump. The others could have voted however they wanted, but they felt obligated to vote with the people's choice in their districts.

The final official vote was 70 for Trump, 1 for Cruz.
And I hear that the 1 who voted for Cruz was slammed in his district for going against the will of his people.

Trump is strongly supported in PA - one state that he needs.

There are more people registered Independent or non-party affiliated in recent years.
I have a feeling many of them who were not even counted in the primaries of most states will vote for Trump instead of Hillary.
People like Hillary are why they are not registered to a party, but Trump is different.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: IAMTAT

I disagree; Trump is not Mitt Romney. We still have a couple of months before the undecided make up their minds.

While that is a complement for trump, i think moore is wrong. Hillary is getting this by force.

The msm, lobbyist support , and not getting a scratch from the fbi investigation nor from bill meeting with lynch indicates she is the chosen one.

She has the lying,corrupted, and conflict of interest that they want for a controlled POTUS

a reply to: interupt42

I disagree about her not getting scratched by the FBI thing. Even those who are inclined to support her call her a lying, dishonest scumbag. That's not a good position to be in even with your supporters. It means you are relying more on their hatred of the other guy than you are on their love of you.

a reply to: IAMTAT

No one knows.

I'm not going to start lending credibility to Moore, though. Guy's an idiot.

a reply to: interupt42

Your post is concerning. I admit that it could still go both ways.

It still boils down to the will of the people versus the establishment. I think Hillary's support is a fabrication. I doubt most people that argue in favor of her on the web are even voters.

If Trump overcomes the corrupt force of the establishment (both sides), he will know that he is only there by the support of the people. That can be powerful if we make it so.



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a reply to: IAMTAT

I don't necessarily disagree with MM, but I think his math is off. If Romney lost by 64 electoral votes, Trump actually only needs to gain 32 votes (33?) because every vote he gains is also removed from Clinton's tally making each vote gained over Romney worth 2 when it comes to narrowing the margin.

Also, I have come to believe that anybody that tells you they know what will happen this year is full of it. Show me someone that predicted back in 2014 that Trump would be the Republican nominee and I will listen to their forecast for November.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: IAMTAT

I disagree; Trump is not Mitt Romney. We still have a couple of months before the undecided make up their minds.

Not only the undecided. A lot of Trump supporters don't admit they are Trump supporters for fear of being labeled as bigots and racists. You will be surprised as who people are going to vote for when behind the anonymity of the curtain in the voting booth.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: interupt42

I disagree about her not getting scratched by the FBI thing. Even those who are inclined to support her call her a lying, dishonest scumbag. That's not a good position to be in even with your supporters. It means you are relying more on their hatred of the other guy than you are on their love of you.

While I agree she was not presented in a good light , the end result is no different than the hearings for the scumbag CEO that robbed the US tax payers money for their bonus and private jet gas money.

Its a dog and pony show to make it look like she didnt' walk away , but in the end she did and they did.

I see her teflon coating as a big indicator that she is the chosen one.

Also there are two types of Hillary supporters and despite her confirmed lying, incompetence , lack luster record, and conflict of interest they will not let something like logical thinking get in their way and sway their opinions of her.

a reply to: ketsuko

Agree. There is a difference between a congressional investigation from a Republican controlled congress and an FBI investigation that is run by an administrative unit of a democratically controlled executive branch. Same goes for the State Department IG report. These findings of wrongdoing, whether she is prosecuted or not, are harmful because she can't credibly blame a "vast right-wing conspiracy."

originally posted by: interupt42
Hillary is getting this by force.

If the election get down to a fair vote ... Trump will win it in a landslide.

The only chance Hillary has is that same 'hope' that was used to deny Bernie the nomination (bought and paid for Super Delegates). Was that why you meant by "force"?

a reply to: IAMTAT
Tell me something, can you give me a couple of examples where Michael Moore has lied in his Documentaries?

Or is "Buffon" the reason you are against him?

I just re-watched Fahrenheit 9/11 and "Capitalism: A Love Story" although lacking the punch they had when they first came out I find them to be true...and disheartening.

I have found it extremely odd that, having traveled over several states, [ Illinois, Indiana, Arkansas, Missouri, Texas, Kentucky ] I have yet to meet a Hillary supporter.
None.
I have talked to I don't know how many people and to this day, haven't met anyone who claims to want her for President. I see bumper stickers and window decals for "Hillary For Prison 2016" but never "Hillary For President". I think Moore is right. Trump will get it and if he doesn't, we're going to see serious backlash. I think people are sick and tired of the political Elite like Clinton, who are obviously not bound by the same laws as the rest of us. The FBI decision hurt Clinton much worse than some want to believe. It just proved that she thinks herself above the law and has the clout to flaunt it when convenient. We just can't afford 4 more years of the same failed policies we've seen in the last 8.

I wonder where Mike's going to move to when Trump wins.

Mexico? Syria? Turkey?

a reply to: IAMTAT

A liitle perspective is in order...Michel Moore hates Hillary Clinton. Or he hated her, in 2008, I don't know what he claims now:

[O]ver the past two months, the actions and words of Hillary Clinton have gone from being merely disappointing to downright disgusting. I guess the debate last week was the final straw. I’ve watched Senator Clinton and her husband play this game of appealing to the worst side of white people, but last Wednesday, when she hurled the name “Farrakhan” out of nowhere, well that’s when the silly season came to an early end for me. She said the “F” word to scare white people, pure and simple. Of course, Obama has no connection to Farrakhan. But, according to Senator Clinton, Obama’s pastor does — AND the “church bulletin” once included a Los Angeles Times op-ed from some guy with Hamas! No, not the church bulletin!
This sleazy attempt to smear Obama was brilliantly explained the following night by Stephen Colbert. He pointed out that if Obama is supported by Ted Kennedy, who is Catholic, and the Catholic Church is led by a Pope who was in the Hitler Youth, that can mean only one thing: OBAMA LOVES HITLER!

Yes, Senator Clinton, that’s how you sounded. Like you were nuts. Like you were a bigot stoking the fires of stupidity. How sad that I would ever have to write those words about you. You have devoted your life to good causes and good deeds. And now to throw it all away for an office you can’t win unless you smear the black man so much that the superdelegates cry “Uncle (Tom)” and give it all to you.

But that can’t happen. You cast your die when you voted to start this bloody war. When you did that you were like Moses who lost it for a moment and, because of that, was prohibited from entering the Promised Land.

How sad for a country that wanted to see the first woman elected to the White House. That day will come — but it won’t be you. We’ll have to wait for the current Democratic governor of Kansas to run in 2016 (you read it here first!).

There are those who say Obama isn’t ready, or he’s voted wrong on this or that. But that’s looking at the trees and not the forest. What we are witnessing is not just a candidate but a profound, massive public movement for change. My endorsement is more for Obama The Movement than it is for Obama the candidate.

That is not to take anything away from this exceptional man. But what’s going on is bigger than him at this point, and that’s a good thing for the country. Because, when he wins in November, that Obama Movement is going to have to stay alert and active. Corporate America is not going to give up their hold on our government just because we say so. President Obama is going to need a nation of millions to stand behind him.

Funny, eh? Michael Moore is such a race-baiting pig.

If Michael Moore would do a documentary on the Democratic Primaries and how Hillary stole them from Bernie, plus the Diebold voting machines hackibility, he might change his mind.