The RNC wants Hillary Clinton to win

The RNC is establishment.
The DNC is establishment.
Hillary Clinton is establishment.

Bernie Sander is against the establishment.
Donald Trump is against the establishment.
Ted Cruz is against the establishment.

The RNC is going to force an establishment candidate at the broker convention and force a win to Hillary Clinton who is in the establishment club,and in return, she will spare the RNC's Souls that are in the establishment.

I'm putting this in Rants bc I have nothing else to point to that makes this scenario any more clear.

That's all I got!

a reply to: tonycodes

Why wouldn't Bernie and Trump run as independents if they lose the party nomination ?

a reply to: tonycodes

Would've been perfect in a lot of forums. I think I would've gone with General Conspiracies. The thought belongs under the Conspiracy Theory Forums for sure.

Specific to the subject: We agree 99%. The establishment is under threat. I see Trump as 75% establishment and 25% out for himself. Cruz is at least 33% establishment ... quite probably a lot more than that. Sanders is woo woo neo-establishment. I'm just glad he's running on the (D) ticket.

Hillary's probably gonna take the whole shebang unless she's indicted. Have to see what the 0bama female dream team will eventually say about that.

a reply to: tonycodes

So in essence, it's the establishment against a significant portion of the voters and they use proxy candidates, once in office, to do their bidding?

Sounds about right, given the state of the US economy, the world economy and the perpetual ME war until all the terrorists are dead.

Lobbyists and Special interests super-rich run the US - not the government and certainly not the people.

a reply to: tonycodes

Ted Cruz is against the establishment.

Which is ironic as Cruz is as establishment as Sanders, the difference being that sanders at least held his democratic socialist views from the moment he stepped into congress. Cruz on the other hand..Is your typical slime-ball,car-salesman type.

a reply to: tonycodes

Hillary will be indicted, if not already, and her time from then will be spend in less than comfy conditions.

a reply to: NewzNose

I highly doubt she will be indicted especially If she hasn't yet been.

a reply to: tonycodes

There is no better example of how the established parties are complete BS than the 2016 election cycle. I would be ashamed to admit I identify with Republicans or Democrats. We need FREEDOM people. Screw these establishment bastards.

None of them are anti-establishment. I don't know where people keep getting this idea...

The RNC would rather have 4 more years of Democratic establishment then a president they can't control.

Honestly all you have to do is look at the media. They completely ignore Sanders and spend 98% of their coverage of Trump just bashing him and taking his words out of context.

How about the republican plans suck. Especially for women and children. And leave soc sec alone. Your problem is denial.

I appreciate the input guys, I try to follow the posting rules around here so if the admins want to move this thread I'm totally fine with that so it is in an appopriate place.

This is exactly my point, the RNC and the Private Professional Political Class will thrive under Hillary and be scrutinized under the other candidates, so they don't care about losing an election, they care about their jobs lol and as far as policy goes, republicans are soft on social and strong on economy and democrats are strong on social and soft on tax breaks for businesses, so it's not like either of these parties are going to help ALL AMERICANS lol a reply to: Konduit

a reply to: tonycodes

No matter how well you're running the table. . . . the House will always win.

Always.

I think a FREEDOM party would have been a better idea than Libertarian or Tea Party, if We The People want to get anything across we have to be very direct and approach this in a way that everyone, even the less educated, understand, wish I could afford to do more but I know ATS gets some movers and shakers reading it and I hope this thread makes it to the front page to let everyone know we can see the plan being played out here, what better place than ATS to bring attention to something so obvious and corrupt. a reply to: Metallicus

Yea but We The People are the house lol but were too fragmented these days a reply to: DBCowboy

I'm so sick of this "establishment" buzzword crap.

Yay! Everyone gets a gold star for understanding a new vocabulary word! *pats everyone on the back*

It's the same with the "the two parties are really the same!" thing.

It's as if it's all brand new and somehow surprising news.

*yawn*

We've already established these things decades ago people, time to get caught up to where we're at now.

People are feeling oh-so-smart now that they've seen through the "lies" in the two party system, and notice how the "establishment" runs things.

Okay, get over yourselves people. You're not geniuses for figuring this out. It doesn't make you look important or smart by throwing around stupid buzzwords like "establishment".

We get it, it's new-to-you...but we don't have all day to sit and wait for you to get used these old facts about the world.

Also have you noticed how many of these super politicians are lawyers.. The govt is teaming up with prestigious law schools and grooming students to be super politicians then president candidates, it's a perfect storm for the PPPC to keep everything in their favor regardless of the people will.

I think it's different, I used establishment bc IT IS A BUZZWORD, the real term I feel is Private Professional Political Class, but since I wanna get noticed, im using current popular keywords a reply to: MystikMushroom

a reply to: NewzNose

You are dreaming. She could be indicted and even jailed. She would be in a federal condo like prison. With golf and racket ball.