Brussels Airport Explosions

originally posted by: TechniXcality

I hear it all time - from what some would call "moderate Muslims" that the end is coming and all of these events are simply signs and pawns moving in divine order.

Wow, you too? I heard it the other day from my regular Lyft driver from Senegal.

STM

a reply to: RadioRobert

Okay, sure in a hypothetical world that does not, has never, and will never exist in reality - sure, all the bad guys come from one place, so you only deal with those guys.

That is not, nor will it ever be the reality. So, what's the point of your argument?

originally posted by: AlexDJ
Here is the problem, What terrorist are doing is labeling every inmigrant muslin in every country, labeling like murderers and not respect any way of peaceful life. What is the solution for europe? do not accept any refugee from muslim countries period. I know most fo them are good people but countries cant risk anymore giving free pass and some of them are infiltrated terrorist. Europe should stop giving assylum, period.


You would say thats inhuman, but drastic times need drastic solutions. This people should resolve their problems on their respective countries not bring problems to the ones they are willing them to accept them. period.

That sadly wouldn't work. It would even make things worse. You don't have to be immigrant to be terrorist. Even someone who has born in the country, could bomb it, if he feels that he is being mistreated or he faces daily racism. Inequality creates terrorism. Muslims are more devoted to religion than their home country.

This is infact what these terrorists want. They WANT that every muslim is blamed for being terrorist. That is their GOAL. More racism creates situation, where muslims want to join Daesh (ISIS), to revenge their mistreatment.

As cheesy as this is, the only way to fight back is by forgetting racism and treating muslims like normal citizens, and accepting them in society. That is Daesh's worst nightmare. They hate seeing muslims as part of society. If they are treated well, I would say the change of them turning into terrorist is much lower, than when they face constant racism.

And of course, by education, they could be turned into Atheists.

originally posted by: verschickter
a reply to: seentoomuch

Thanks! I´ll send you a message when the time comes closer, made a note in my travel papers

Great!

STM

a reply to: 0zzymand0s

Except that I never said that - but that's the issue right .. people like to read what they believe.

Strong leadership doesn't mean a "savior" - that means we have someone with guts to lead us. After all the President of the United States is a single person ... so my statement a strong leader applies to that very much.

a reply to: seentoomuch

Yeah, I've heard it from my devout Southern Baptist Aunt too. I heard that my great-grandmother used to say it all the time during the depression - "The end is near! All the signs of the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse!" Aaaaaand, we're still here.

Funny, I know a couple of moderate Muslim families where I live - they aren't saying any such thing, other than they hate terrorists.

Apparently Brussels ran an ad campaign mocking those who warned against blindly letting hordes of Muslim "refugees" in to their countries.

Brussels Ran Ad Campaign Mocking the Notion of a Terrorist Attack Two Months Ago
www.mediaite.com...

originally posted by: TheBulk
Apparently Brussels ran an ad campaign mocking those who warned against blindly letting hordes of Muslim "refugees" in to their countries.

Brussels Ran Ad Campaign Mocking the Notion of a Terrorist Attack Two Months Ago
www.mediaite.com...

I guess the terrorists weren't watching a lot of TV.

can anyone fathom what would happen if white Christians went into a Muslim marketplace in a Muslim country, and detonated bombs?....and what if this kept happening over and over.....do you think any Islamic controlled government would say to it's people..."don't retaliate against the peaceful Christians living here"

originally posted by: Thebel
That sadly wouldn't work. It would even make things worse. You don't have to be immigrant to be terrorist. Even someone who has born in the country, could bomb it, if he feels that he is being mistreated or he faces daily racism. Inequality creates terrorism.

There are quite literally millions of impoverished US citizens of all races and creeds making a lie of your statement at this very moment. If socio-economic factors were the driving factor of terrorism, I would expect to see far more bombings from the 14% of the population living below the poverty line, than the less than 1% of the Muslim population.

Religious belief is the driving factor here because that religion is the one embracing the idea of jihad and martydom to address the various other issues. Lots of people have socio-economic issues that they don't justify to bomb marathons because they do not belong to a religion that espouses such behaviour is not just accepted, but rewarded . Lots of people have been angered by Western intervention and didn't respond with blowing up school buses because they don't belong to a religion that encourages it.

But we can keep pretending that because there are some good people who practice a brand of Islam that is peaceful (and there are), we shouldn't ever address the radical movement which is not a fringe inside Islam.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: seentoomuch

Yeah, I've heard it from my devout Southern Baptist Aunt too. I heard that my great-grandmother used to say it all the time during the depression - "The end is near! All the signs of the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse!" Aaaaaand, we're still here.

Funny, I know a couple of moderate Muslim families where I live - they aren't saying any such thing, other than they hate terrorists.

Not the same at all. He said that the killings were justified (we debated about this) and that at the end Jesus would wipe out Israel for Allah and hopefully he would accept some good hearted christians, but that he wasn't sure 'bout that.



STM

Note: I'm switching to Uber

Don't let America go the same way as Europe.

And Trump thinks he can make America "great, again"? From what i've been reading, that's not going to happen. Not when people in the US still think terrorists come from the Middle East and Muslims are the only religious people that strap bombs to themselves.

Newsflash: America wiped out over 200,000+ people, with 2 bombs. STOP BEING SUCH HYPOCRITES. It's sickening.

originally posted by: jimmyx
can anyone fathom what would happen if white Christians went into a Muslim marketplace in a Muslim country, and detonated bombs?....and what if this kept happening over and over.....do you think any Islamic controlled government would say to it's people..."don't retaliate against the peaceful Christians living here"

White Christians DID do that. They lit up Iraq like a Christmas tree and Iraq had nothing to do with 911. So, what exactly is your agenda? To further divide us?

Is that what this thread is about? Let's blame "Muslims" because the news said so? Do people question anything outside of the agenda, anymore?

What happened to the days, on ATS, where people posted facts and not propaganda spewed from television? Giving stars to hate? Is that what this site has been reduced to?

Shameful!

originally posted by: JuJuBee
And Trump thinks he can make America "great, again"? From what i've been reading, that's not going to happen. Not when people in the US still think terrorists come from the Middle East and Muslims are the only religious people that strap bombs to themselves.

Newsflash: America wiped out over 200,000+ people, with 2 bombs. STOP BEING SUCH HYPOCRITES. It's sickening.

the term "hypocrite" doesn't apply to your example

originally posted by: JuJuBee

originally posted by: jimmyx
can anyone fathom what would happen if white Christians went into a Muslim marketplace in a Muslim country, and detonated bombs?....and what if this kept happening over and over.....do you think any Islamic controlled government would say to it's people..."don't retaliate against the peaceful Christians living here"

White Christians DID do that. They lit up Iraq like a Christmas tree and Iraq had nothing to do with 911. So, what exactly is your agenda? To further divide us?

Is that what this thread is about? Let's blame "Muslims" because the news said so? Do people question anything outside of the agenda, anymore?

What happened to the days, on ATS, where people posted facts and not propaganda spewed from television? Giving stars to hate? Is that what this site has been reduced to?

Shameful!

I never give stars to hate...but in your case I'll make an exception; Have a star!

I think sadly a major smart bomb attack that kills 10,000 or so people is the only way the world will declare all out war on radical Islam and reshape NATO and get Turkey out of NATO and maybe Saudi Arabia.

originally posted by: JuJuBee
And Trump thinks he can make America "great, again"? From what i've been reading, that's not going to happen. Not when people in the US still think terrorists come from the Middle East and Muslims are the only religious people that strap bombs to themselves.

Newsflash: America wiped out over 200,000+ people, with 2 bombs. STOP BEING SUCH HYPOCRITES. It's sickening.

200,000 lives are just a fraction of the lives lost due to the war that interestingly enough was started by Japan.
Ask the Koreans, Chinese, Filipinos, Malaysians and others what it was like being in the East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere.

originally posted by: JuJuBee

originally posted by: jimmyx
can anyone fathom what would happen if white Christians went into a Muslim marketplace in a Muslim country, and detonated bombs?....and what if this kept happening over and over.....do you think any Islamic controlled government would say to it's people..."don't retaliate against the peaceful Christians living here"

White Christians DID do that. They lit up Iraq like a Christmas tree and Iraq had nothing to do with 911. So, what exactly is your agenda? To further divide us?

Is that what this thread is about? Let's blame "Muslims" because the news said so? Do people question anything outside of the agenda, anymore?

What happened to the days, on ATS, where people posted facts and not propaganda spewed from television? Giving stars to hate? Is that what this site has been reduced to?

Shameful!

if you think all of what we see on TV is propaganda, then how do you trust the idea that what is on TV is ONLY propaganda?....from what source do you get your information, and why do you trust that so implicity?

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